Prices compared for charging at Supercharger (between Tesla and non-Teslas) - by JerryRigEverything

Zprime29 · Feb 29, 2024

Nice short video and no/little fluff. Most interesting part was when he compared pricing. Tesla bumped the price for him 30% over his mother's Tesla. Though it was still cheaper than the EA down the road. All prices he mentioned seemed to be non-subscriber prices.

ytwytw · Feb 29, 2024

The membership price is almost the same as the tesla owner

detansinn · Mar 6, 2024

The membership is totally worth it, but Tesla is going to do well by all of the Fords using Plug-n-charge.

BlueLightning · Mar 6, 2024

So, have not watched the video, what are the price differences? Thanks

Pioneer74 · Mar 6, 2024

BlueLightning said:
So, have not watched the video, what are the price differences? Thanks

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davehu · Mar 6, 2024

He did a good job pointing out several things that Tom and Kyle didn't cover

BlueLightning · Mar 6, 2024

Pioneer74 said:

Thanks. Oh wow, will keep using only the home charger after 7pm.

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bub · Mar 6, 2024

Seems to be pretty wild the markup that gets charged in some places.
In Nanaimo, BC for example. We pay 0.14$ per kwh as a consumer. I'm sure they pay less for industrial use.

The Tesla charger their is advertising to ford customers 0.59$ and 0.44$ as a member. Meanwhile the EA (Electrify Canada actually) is charging 0.77$ non-member pricing down the road.

I get it that they have to pay for the charging infrastructure. But charging what must be 5-10x the industrial rates they probably pay seems excessive.

02Reaper · Mar 6, 2024

You gotta pay to play. At least they work.

Grumpy2 · Mar 6, 2024

A big bump like that in peak hour cost seems logical as a solution to higher peak demand than their system can easily handle, not profits. Dropping big demands, like shifting industry loads to off hours , will help them gain time to improve their local grid & power generation system.

It looks like a reward and punishment setup, as those low rates must have very little added markup over cost.

chex38 · Mar 6, 2024

Uh, no, EV fast-charging expenses to utilities like BC-Hydro are not that simple.
They pay more than we would pay for a basic residential rate.

A Supercharger site has massive peak of demand on the grid, a 8-stall V3 SuC is fitted with a 1500 kW/(KVA) transformer to the grid, if all 8 chargers are running, that is a big demand. The customer pays a lot more than the basic 14c/kWh BC-Hydro residential rate in the end for service like that based on the peak demand charges from the site for the month.

See: https://www.bchydro.com/news/conservation/2019/demand-charges-explained.html

bub said:
Seems to be pretty wild the markup that gets charged in some places.
In Nanaimo, BC for example. We pay 0.14$ per kwh as a consumer. I'm sure they pay less for industrial use.

The Tesla charger their is advertising to ford customers 0.59$ and 0.44$ as a member. Meanwhile the EA (Electrify Canada actually) is charging 0.77$ non-member pricing down the road.

I get it that they have to pay for the charging infrastructure. But charging what must be 5-10x the industrial rates they probably pay seems excessive.

TheWoo · Mar 6, 2024

BlueLightning said:
Thanks. Oh wow, will keep using only the home charger after 7pm.

There's essentially never a time a person should use DCFC if they have the option to get that charge at home.

The exception would be if they somehow get free charging. Otherwise it will almost always be cheaper, and always will be better for the battery to charge at home.

BlueLightning · Mar 6, 2024

TheWoo said:
There's essentially never a time a person should use DCFC if they have the option to get that charge at home.

The exception would be if they somehow get free charging. Otherwise it will almost always be cheaper, and always will be better for the battery to charge at home.

Agree 100%, never really paid attention of the price when had my Tesla just pulled up and charged and moved down the road. But $.34-$.37 was about the going rate per kWh. At $.45 per kWh for Ford that’s not bad paying $23 to get back on the road. Better than $3 a gallon for gas costing $60 per fill up. I know, I know, “apples and oranges” Lol

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Maxx · Mar 6, 2024

BlueLightning said:
Thanks. Oh wow, will keep using only the home charger after 7pm.

You got it made. This is my rates in Maryland:

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Maxx · Mar 6, 2024

BlueLightning said:
At $.45 per kWh for Ford that’s not bad paying $23 to get back on the road. Better than $3 a gallon for gas costing $60 per fill up.

Depending on what you are driving. Superchargers are in $0.50+ range around me but even at $0.45 a road trip with Lightning will cost me $0.225 per mile. At $3/gal it will cost me $0.10 per mile with my wife's outback.

Home charging driving in the city it is complete opposite. Cost me $0.045/mile with Lightning and $0.15/mile with Subaru.

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