First time charging at Tesla V4 Supercharger

msadan · Oct 20, 2024

Just charged at a Tesla V4 Supercharger outside of Grand Rapids MI, and it was great! Longer cable means no more blocking two spaces. And even though the cable is a larger diameter than other Supercharger cables it is still much easier to manipulate than the typical fat cables at other DCFCs. I read somewhere that all V4 locations will be Magic Dock locations. Not sure if that’s true, but this location was Magic Dock, although oddly the Tesla app said that an adapter was required. 250 kW max charge rate, so obviously more than enough for our needs. I give this location a 9 out of 10, only things missing were pull-through charging and a canopy.

Ford F-150 Lightning First time charging at Tesla V4 Supercharger IMG_7746

Albern · Oct 20, 2024

Yeah I also had my first V4 experience last weekend on the way back to Toronto from NYC. It's definitely nice to not have to block 2 charge spots but I would still prefer to back into the stall.

There were reports that MagicDock has been disabled across the board but for reasons still unknown. This was my observation including at V3 locations with MagicDock. Maybe Tesla is trying to limit use by OEMs who are not yet officially signed up to NACS.

msadan · Oct 20, 2024

Albern said:
There were reports that MagicDock has been disabled across the board but for reasons still unknown. This was my observation including at V3 locations with MagicDock. Maybe Tesla is trying to limit use by OEMs who are not yet officially signed up to NACS.

I used Magic Docks twice in Mackinaw City MI this weekend without any issues.

hturnerfamily · Oct 20, 2024

all new/newer V4 units have the 'magic dock' ADAPTER built in, although not ALL are ACTIVATED for "Other EV" usage, but WILL work for us FORDs with our OWN adapter...

it's confusing right now since many of these newer units 'look' like they have the adapter, and yet don't release it for "Other EV" usage... but that's just Tesla design for FUTURE implementation of the integrated adapter, for the location THEY decide...

as for the 'news' that someone thinks that Tesla has disable 'ALL' magic-dock "Other EV" supercharger locations - it seems that this is simply click-bait, and uncorroborated 'non Tesla' information... Tesla's own website map still shows all the same locations and has no news about anything different.

If you search Tesla's map with the filter, "NACS Compatible", though, you'll see those units/locations that ALSO provide us, with our own adapters, charging...

dww · Oct 20, 2024

hturnerfamily said:
all new/newer V4 units have the 'magic dock' ADAPTER built in, although not ALL are ACTIVATED for "Other EV" usage, but WILL work for us FORDs with our OWN adapter...

it's confusing right now since many of these newer units 'look' like they have the adapter, and yet don't release it for "Other EV" usage... but that's just Tesla design for FUTURE implementation of the integrated adapter, for the location THEY decide...

as for the 'news' that someone thinks that Tesla has disable 'ALL' magic-dock "Other EV" supercharger locations - it seems that this is simply click-bait, and uncorroborated 'non Tesla' information... Tesla's own website map still shows all the same locations and has no news about anything different.

If you search Tesla's map with the filter, "NACS Compatible", though, you'll see those units/locations that ALSO provide us, with our own adapters, charging...

I used this one in Robstown, TX to charge my Tesla, but it released the adapter when I used the “charge my non Tesla” in the app. It says you need the adapter in the app, but here it is. How could they possibly disable the adapter?

I did not inspect the pins, so maybe it’s a dummy one, but that seems unlikely.

Ford F-150 Lightning First time charging at Tesla V4 Supercharger IMG_5854

climateguy · Oct 21, 2024

I charged a few weeks ago with a Magic Dock on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington state. I pressed the button marked with the red arrow in the following photo before pulling the cable from the charger and it came out with the adapter. I didn't do anything with the Tesla app except search for a charger and indicate I wanted to charge.

Ford F-150 Lightning First time charging at Tesla V4 Supercharger magic dock

A Tesla tech who happened to be there at an even earlier visit said Tesla is installing the Magic Dock adapter to limit the problem with other aftermarket adapters that he said were causing melting problems and somehow even damaging Tesla equipment - perhaps the Tesla end that plugs into the adapter heating as the aftermarket adapter melts.

hturnerfamily · Oct 21, 2024

Tesla map shows this as a "NACS Compatible" location, but not an "Other EV", location...

I think that both of these instances show that Tesla is now RELEASING their own adapter for our "NACS Compatible" locations for FORD< RIVIAN< and GM... but this does NOT mean that this is a 'magic dock' location, from the perspective that it will also activate charging for "OTHER EV" vehicles... interesting... I'll try it the next time, too, and see if it's own 'adapter' will suffice, versus my own.

mrau · Oct 23, 2024

Charged today at the new Tesla V4 Supercharger in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Same one @msadan had used. Worked well and able to park in the assigned slot. I measured the cable and it is 10 ft long. Very easy to plug in. Although I could see the Magic Dock adapters are built in, they are not able to be activated from the app. The NACS adapter is required here, and luckily I've gotten mine. Hopefully Tesla will turn the Magic Docks access on too.

They also have an Accessible Charging pedestal and the sign suggests to use this station last. it has more cement around the pedestal and wider parking area.

I was there for about 30 minutes. 12 stations and no other vehicles came by the whole time. Supercharging nirvana !

Ford F-150 Lightning First time charging at Tesla V4 Supercharger IMG_3059

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Scorpio3d · Oct 23, 2024

I wonder if they paused, releasing the magic docks from the superchargers because they were possibly from the same batch as the recalled adapters sent out to us and they need to check the serial numbers and replace the ones that are bad??

Smokewagun · Oct 27, 2024

So, sorry for the intrusion and my ignorance, but I am looking at Tesla charging locations. They say “Tesla” or “Tesla + No Tesla”. Kind of unclear. Is the latter a charge station already adapted for charging a Lightning without an adapter, and a “Tesla” location needs an adapter? Thanks for the clarification.

msadan · Oct 28, 2024

Smokewagun said:
So, sorry for the intrusion and my ignorance, but I am looking at Tesla charging locations. They say “Tesla” or “Tesla + No Tesla”. Kind of unclear. Is the latter a charge station already adapted for charging a Lightning without an adapter, and a “Tesla” location needs an adapter? Thanks for the clarification.

I'm not sure where you're seeing the "Tesla" and "Tesla + No Tesla", is that on the Ford nav screen, or the Ford app, or somewhere else? I have not seen that anywhere. I generally use the Tesla app to find compatible Supercharger locations. If you go to the "Charge your other EV" screen it will show only the Superchargers that are open to non-Teslas. It will also show which ones require an adapter and which ones don't (Magic Dock).

Howard_Scott_Warshaw · Nov 22, 2024

Anyone have trouble with the truck nerfing to 25 kw on a v4 supercharger?

I'm in the middle of an 800mile road trip and the first two V4 sites I've used wound up ramping back down to ~25 kw after 15 minutes or so. No errors or obvious problems with the hardware.

Iver used plenty of V3s and never had this problem. I can move.to the next stall and get 160 kw again

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