Ford has delayed ordering for months. And nobody is saying that they should release everyone's order on day one. That's nonsense. Nobody is arguing that. But it is not unreasonable to expect that, say, 2% of the reservations would get to order on day one. My dealership supposedly has...
But the 12.5k off isn't done yet, and ordering is going to start in the next few months. Ford is charging about $12-15k more for the lightning than a comparable power boost. If you get a 12.5k credit, then the value is very strong. If it's $7,500, then it's a little annoying to have less...
The whole idea of "waves" in 2 week intervals is from a dealer guide. But the official communication said nothing about that. And maybe I"m unreasonable, but if you had asked me last week when Ford sent the email how many reservation holders would get to place an order in the first week, I...
Certainly there is nothing to do but wait, but Ford still sucks at this. And it's surprising just how badly they suck at this because this is the third highly anticipated release in the last 3 years.
I recognize that part of the problem is that the dealer model is broken. But Ford could...
I'm actually a little surprised at how reserved and calm this thread is. The potential that less than 1/100 reservations will be invited to order and that some states will get priority over others is pretty irritating and I would have thought it would piss a lot more people off.
How mature...
I'm not talking about some internal documents. I'm talking about the email I got from Ford
"Orders start at the beginning of the new year, and because of unprecedented interest, we'll be sending invitations to order at staggered times."
I reserved a lightning within 5 minutes of the...
If this is true, it just cements that Ford does not care at all about frustrating its customers. To release a date for when invitations will go out, and then only send them to a tiny group is almost trolling us. It's like all the crap I've received in the mail for a Bronco without getting...
Hmm, a dealer pricing summary? So will this actually include any additional markup? Or will we need to do the whole dance of getting a confirmed price in writing directly from the dealership?
I don't think this is some massive con or anything, but $93,064 for the Platinum is very high. It seems ford wants to fully capture any tax incentives and still be significantly higher than the hybrid models.
I priced two trucks with similar options, 1 is the Lariat Lightning and the...
I just configured the Lariat I want, and it is $81,284 for the lightning and $66,835 for the hybrid. Without a good knowledge of what the rebates will be, that's a little too steep for a first generation.
What do you base this on? I'm not saying you are wrong, but I just wonder if you have some reason to believe that their range estimates were similar to performance at 50 or 60 or 70 mph?
With the Mustang Mach-E, the 70 mph range test was 285 compared to an EPA estimate of 270 miles which I...
I'm not a physicist or an engineer, so I must be misunderstanding you. Are you suggesting that a Tesla model 3 is 4x as efficient at 30 mph as 60 mph?
So using the 4x number, let's just say a Tesla Model 3 uses .07 Kwh per mile at 30 MPH.
And, let's say a Lightning will use .15 kwh per...
the second article is just to illustrate the difference in efficiency at different speeds.
If ford’s estimate is based on mixed driving or 50 mph, for example, you would see much lower range at 70, 75, or 80. (All of which are freeway speeds at different places in my state). If the range...
I would usually assume this, but they don’t have any to sell. They offered me a pretty great deal to buy my 2019 Lariat, but there is nothing for me to replace it with.
I hope you are right, but where do you come up with this? The example I shared was the Model S, which is much sleeker than an F150, and that lost 23% of its range at 70 MPH vs 40 MPH. So if Ford came up with 300 miles of range with an average speed of 40 MPH, then you would expect a...
Has anyone heard about the speed Ford used to calculate range estimates? I heard from a fleet/commercial sales manager ad a dealership that they expected range to be about 40% less at 70 mph due to the F150's lack of efficient aerodynamics.
According to a few articles, The 2018 Tesla Model S...
I asked my dealer about these prioritizations. The rep at the dealer responded and said "Don't listen to any chatter - we don't play any of the games you might hear other dealers might try pulling - we don't move anyone." Maybe I'll respond and ask if that is a guarantee.