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  1. How fair is it, really, to be upset at Ford?

    a lot of ford apologists around here. Nobody is saying that they shouldn’t have to be patient. I’m not angry that I’m still waiting. I’m angry about the list of things I put in my OP, which you apologists all seem to completely ignoee. Ford is going to fulfill less than 1% of reservations at my...
  2. How fair is it, really, to be upset at Ford?

    I'm in Utah, so we aren't getting the EV preference, but my dealer insists that they were only allocated 6 MY2022 truck orders on 730+ reservations.
  3. How fair is it, really, to be upset at Ford?

    Good time for Ford to send me an email with a subject line that says "Make Room for your New Ford F150 Lightning!" Haha. Dorks.
  4. How fair is it, really, to be upset at Ford?

    Ford should have tempered my expectations
  5. How fair is it, really, to be upset at Ford?

    Not just because I placed a non-binding reservation. But because I reserved a truck within the first 20 minutes. And because I was in the top 2% of reservations at my dealership. (Ford would only have to produce 4,000 trucks to satisfy 2% of the first 200,000 reservations). Ford didn’t...
  6. How fair is it, really, to be upset at Ford?

    I’m not saying it is a bait-and-switch on pricing. I’m saying the pricing for the Lariat ER is stupid. And I don’t think you can really give Ford that much credit foot producing an electric pickup truck at “scale.” They produce a massive amount of vehicles every year, and it looks like they...
  7. How fair is it, really, to be upset at Ford?

    I'm pissed at Ford. But is it fair? Do I just need to be patient and happy? First, I want to lay out the excuses for Ford. Global pandemic, duh! Supply chain problems Demand was way more than they expected There are too many unknowns for Ford to be much more transparent without causing more...
  8. 5-19-21 Reservation an 40th at my dealer, No hope for 2022?????

    I applaud your optimism and I hope you are right. My wife is still waiting on a Bronco we were supposed to have like 6 months ago, so I’m a little more cynical about Ford actually following through. But hey, they sent me a calendar and poster! So maybe we’ll get some great LIghtning Swag...
  9. 5-19-21 Reservation an 40th at my dealer, No hope for 2022?????

    I hope you are right on this, but I don’t see how you could possibly have any idea about this. My dealership has ensured I will not be getting a 2022, because I”m 14th out of 734 and they are only getting 6 this year, but they have no information about when 2023 orders would go in or when...
  10. ? 3rd Wave (2/3/22) Lightning Ordering Now Open!

    5/19 at 7:48 (Mountain time) reservation. I knew I wouldn't be in wave 3, (or 4, 5, or 6), but because I apparently like to be irritated by this process, I logged on to check anyway to really drive home the disappointment :)
  11. Wave 3

    Did they give you any time frame to expect? Funny enough I talked to my dealer about ordering a BAP Platinum and they told me those are taking more than 6 months.
  12. ? Lightning Ordering WAVE 2 Emails Are Out!

    If there were 200,000 reservations and you only consider 2000 dealerships, that is only 100 reservations per dealership. If you consider 3000 dealerships, it is 66 reservations per dealership. So your dealership with 485 and my dealership with 734 (or so) should get substantially more than...
  13. Wave 3

    Yeah, the prioritizations are dumb, especially when the allocations are so small. Giving a dealership 25 prioritizations and then only sending them less than 10 trucks is just stupid. But for whatever its worth, my dealership claims they did not use prioritizations. In fact, my dealership...
  14. Wave 3

    My reservation email confirmation came to me 18 minutes after the Lightning presentation started. I was 14/667 according to my dealer back in November, and now I'm supposedly around 27 of 700+, probably because a bunch of people switched dealerships. I'm kind of blown away that 26 people in my...
  15. Wave Change ?

    Maybe that would just mean that wave 1 wasn't really a wave, more of a small test. So wave 2 was really the first wave.
  16. ? Lightning Ordering WAVE 2 Emails Are Out!

    There is no way the math works like this. It's not 15k divided by 2k or 3k dealerships. A dealership with 700 reservations shouldn't be allocated the same number of trucks as a dealership with 20 reservations or 100 reservations. Utah has 48 dealerships on the Ford directory, but the top...
  17. Just How In Demand ARE EV Trucks

    You might be totally right. But Tesla's entire lineup of S3XY models only sell about 500,000 units. But more than 11 million pickup trucks are sold in the US per year. If only 1% of those sales convert to EV trucks, that's 110,000 units per year. I don't think it's unrealistic at all to...
  18. Reserved within first 15 minutes, but dealer just told me I won't get a Lightning until 2023.

    Sure, now it is obviously wishful thinking. But when they announced they were producing 15,000 and had 200,000 reservations, I was in the top 2% of reservations at my dealership. And then I was moved to the top 4%. Now that I know about all the prioritizations and the ZEV state preferences and...
  19. Reserved within first 15 minutes, but dealer just told me I won't get a Lightning until 2023.

    I get what you are saying, but not all dealers are equal. In Utah where I live, two dealerships sell the vast majority of new ford trucks. If Ford really allocated the same number to my dealer as dealers with less than 100 reservations, that would be a complete joke. My dealership has 734...




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