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  1. Bad weather charging cover

    I use the ford one.
  2. 2nd Choice

    for me, there’s no value and upgrading to a 2025 for features. Would I have is fine. It’s really just about whether or not the incentives are so good on a 2025 that the lease price plus residual give me some benefit over my current deal. if the deal is good enough, I don’t mind upgrading...
  3. 2nd Choice

    Lariat. Right now in WA state without Private offers, the incentives are about 11k. No different than end of year pricing or the incentives I got on the Mach-E I just leased. I am happy with my ā€˜24 Lightning. But if the price is right……………………… also, at least here I have not seen lightnings...
  4. 2nd Choice

    I have been checking and ford hasn’t launched fire sale pricing. I think they are waiting to see if the cancelling results in increased demand at current pricing. Let’s see what the new year brings.
  5. Accountants: How did my Lightning cost $200,000 to build?

    Isn’t it the finance and marketing departments that helped steer towards high priced trims and focused advertising on the functionality the truck is least capable of (towing)?
  6. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ā›”ļø ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    While I already voiced my opinion about Mr. Farley’s leadership on quality and EVs, a little part of me wonders whether he is just saying what he needs to say to pacify the current administration, and whether the next lightning (nearing the end of the current term) will indeed have BEV and EREV...
  7. Accountants: How did my Lightning cost $200,000 to build?

    No new car company that sells very very expensive cars and nothing else will survive. The bottom line is that there are a limited number of people who can afford those cars, and that pool of potential buyers must be shared among a gazillion car companies wanting their business. Rivian would be...
  8. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ā›”ļø ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    I did that many years ago with Cadillac. I have heard that ford refuses and puts all the EVs back in a national wholesale program. Anyone here have success with an EV at lease end?
  9. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ā›”ļø ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    why punish the Mache? At this point it is in its 6th model year (2026), and it’s rock solid. There isn’t another cross over EV I would want to drive. I just got a new one and certainly had the chance to pick another brand if I wanted to. For transparency, the only other car I liked (without...
  10. Interesting video from Hank Green on the F150L

    Nothing new in that vid. He should have more highly emphasized price. You know, promise $40k. $95k is the price at the dealer.
  11. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ā›”ļø ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    @Ford Motor Company - I critical option for ford to offer is for existing lessees to be offered a buyout of their vehicle at a reduced residual amount. This is fair since this announcement impacts Lightning’s value so much.
  12. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ā›”ļø ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    By the time ford brings this to market and has two years to work out the bugs, battery tech and charging infrastructure will be sufficient enough, this ā€œgap measure for capitulation purposes ā€œ will no longer be necessary. It’s laughable that American car companies would go this direction given...
  13. Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ā›”ļø ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

    I am not sure what to say other than Mr. Farley appears to be a very weak leader, who has been unable to improve vehicle quality, and who flips flops strategy and execution in response to the slightest shift in the direction of the wind. Most obvious is how he choreographs his future failures...
  14. MAX TRAILER TOW PACKAGE if not planning to tow?

    Max tow. Factory only option and another feather in the resale cap. Bed liner: 600 gets you a better after market liner. Charger: plenty of options. in other words, go with the features you can’t add after the fact. The bedliner and mobile charger are easy adds at any time.
  15. Is this a slimy dealer GPS tracker?

    By the way, my experience is that not that they don’t tell you about a security system and give you the opportunity to have it ā€œdisabledā€. Instead, it is that they talk about the security system without mentioning the live tracker, and therefore there’s no reason for someone to understand that a...
  16. Is this a slimy dealer GPS tracker?

    Kirkland Ford
  17. Is this a slimy dealer GPS tracker?

    I called the dealer and I now understand the game that they play. They tell you about a system when you buy the car and then you say you’re not interested in so they say they deactivate it. It is quite misleading to say that it is deactivated when it is still fully operational and trackable ...
  18. Is this a slimy dealer GPS tracker?

    Nope šŸ˜‚
  19. Is this a slimy dealer GPS tracker?

    Bought new and did not see anything in the paperwork about this. It taps power of the OBD wires. Even if they buried it, they would have to disclose it. Law school taught me to read closely but it’s always possible they buried it in the fine mini fine print. It’s coming out as I get home...




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