1PD - is it too severe for regen or is it me ? Drove 60 miles yesterday and found 1PD very intrusive...

[metroshot]

So I took my week old Lightning out for a drive longer than my normal commute days and tried using 1PD at the start.

Found 1PD was very intrusive and I could not get a subtle enough throttle to keep her going in stop & go traffic.

Is that normal or is it me ?

@Ford Motor Company will they do an update on 1PD and allow for levels of regen ?

I come from driving 4 years on a 17kWh PHEV where I have paddle shifters that let me set the level of regen (1-4) which increases range.

So I turned off 1PD for the majority of the drive and coasted & lightly braked which seemed to keep the Brake Coach happy and I did get over 7 miles of regen back into the battery.

As a side note, while driving my Lightning, I kept reaching for the paddle shifters that are not there there on the Lightning - muscle memory ?

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[gorwell]

You don't have to use 1 pedal

The way ford made the truck is that it maxes out regen fully when braking before it switches.

There shouldn't be a key difference between the two in efficiency. Unless you are slamming on the brakes. Just a matter of preference.

Coasting when you don't have to brake is more efficient anyways, some people get caught up in regen, when they should coast to maximize efficiency.

 

[sotek2345]

I have only had a chance for a ~ 1 hour test drive in a Lighting, but if anything I wish the one pedal was a little more aggressive. I feel the same way in our Mach-e, even in unbridled. You will never make everyone happy, but given you think it is too much and I think it is not enough, Ford probably got it close to right.

 

[Intellibeam]

It might be in my head but I find Sport Mode to be similar to 1 pedal without being 1 pedal. I tried this weekend to get used to 1 pedal only but reversing with it made me look like I just got my license an hour ago.

 

[LSP]

So I took my week old Lightning out for a drive longer than my normal commute days and tried using 1PD at the start.

Found 1PD was very intrusive and I could not get a subtle enough throttle to keep her going in stop & go traffic.

Is that normal or is it me ?

@Ford Motor Company will they do an update on 1PD and allow for levels of regen ?

I come from driving 4 years on a 17kWh PHEV where I have paddle shifters that let me set the level of regen (1-4) which increases range.

So I turned off 1PD for the majority of the drive and coasted & lightly braked which seemed to keep the Brake Coach happy and I did get over 7 miles of regen back into the battery.

As a side note, while driving my Lightning, I kept reaching for the paddle shifters that are not there there on the Lightning - muscle memory ?

I’ve had 1 pedal in other vehicles and I find it to be just right in the Lightning.

 

[metroshot]

It might be in my head but I find Sport Mode to be similar to 1 pedal without being 1 pedal. I tried this weekend to get used to 1 pedal only but reversing with it made me look like I just got my license an hour ago.

That's exactly how I felt but driving forward - like a new driver that is learning to drive for the first time...

1PD had me lurching to a stop abruptly and then taking off again - sort of like trying to figure out how to accelerate and brake at the same time.

Throttle was not sensitive enough to keep the momentum so I just turned it off.

 

[ericpullen]

You don't have to use 1 pedal

The way ford made the truck is that it maxes out regen fully when braking before it switches.

There shouldn't be a key difference between the two in efficiency. Unless you are slamming on the brakes. Just a matter of preference.

Coasting when you don't have to brake is more efficient anyways, some people get caught up in regen, when they should coast to maximize efficiency.

Not sure that's how "coasting" works in an EV setup like our Lightning. My understanding was that since there is no transmission to shift into a neutral value, coasting with 2 pedal driving is actually just an inferred value to the motor to simulate the feel of coasting.

I could be wrong if others have a deeper understanding of this.

 

[Dakovich]

This is my first EV, and first experience with 1PD but I can say I find the Lightning 1PD to be easy to use and very smooth. Having said that, I could see where it could get jerky if you don’t have great control of your foot and can’t smoothly feather the throttle for whatever reason. In those instances, the blended regen/braking is genius. Turn off 1PD and the truck maximizes regen but feels exactly (mostly) like a traditional throttle/brake driving input (throttle to go, brake pedal to stop).

 

[Intellibeam]

Not sure that's how "coasting" works in an EV setup like our Lightning. My understanding was that since there is no transmission to shift into a neutral value, coasting with 2 pedal driving is actually just an inferred value to the motor to simulate the feel of coasting.

I could be wrong if others have a deeper understanding of this.

In normal mode, you let off the "gas" it's just like a normal vehicle. In sport mode, when you let off, it starts a slow speed decrease that makes it seem like it's regening to slow you down.

For 1 pedal, its like sport mode on crack. You let off and this thing is coming to a stop whether you like it or not. You could have a Youtube channel dedicated to people in a parking lot reversing Ford Lightnings in 1 pedal mode and have 100k subs.

 

[saturnschildren]

The Lightning is my first EV so I don't have much basis for comparison with other 1PD setups. I found that it took me a few days of casual driving before I felt really smooth with 1PD, now I only notice it when I'm reversing (and kinda wish that I could turn it off in reverse).

 

[metroshot]

This is my first EV, and first experience with 1PD but I can say I find the Lightning 1PD to be easy to use and very smooth. Having said that, I could see where it could get jerky if you don’t have great control of your foot and can’t smoothly feather the throttle for whatever reason. In those instances, the blended regen/braking is genius. Turn off 1PD and the truck maximizes regen but feels exactly (mostly) like a traditional throttle/brake driving input (throttle to go, brake pedal to stop).

You are lucky of not having driven other EV vehicles which may help you learn to adapt to Lightning's 1PD.

Coming from a paddle shifting - multi regen selection PHEV, I can say that Ford's 1PD is too abrupt for my tastes.

I can't feather the throttle in a bumper to bumper / stop and go traffic common where I live.

Forget about reversing with 1PD in urban driving!

 

[vbaker4444]

Coming from a 2013 model S, the regen is very similar on the Pro. At 1k miles on it between city and highway and downtown Detroit driving, no issues at all adapting to the regen. You will figure it out with time.

 

[PopsGG]

I plan to do some testing, but there appears to be a minimum level of resistance that regen needs to get the voltage/amps high enough to recharge the batteries.

Look at the animation on the dash, the regen bar shows when energy is flowing into the battery. It doesn't show a flow if the green bar is tiny, like when you lightly break or slowly release the accelerator. Its not till you are significantly slowing that the animation shows energy going into the battery.

That makes me feel that the stronger the regen resistance, the more efficient the energy recapture is. I just need to do some tests to find out.

 

[TadCurious]

It might be in my head but I find Sport Mode to be similar to 1 pedal without being 1 pedal. I tried this weekend to get used to 1 pedal only but reversing with it made me look like I just got my license an hour ago.

 

[beatle]

There is definitely a learning curve to it even if you're used to 1PD from another maker. I also thought it was pretty abrupt at low speeds, but I was also used to my old Model S having no regen below 5 mph. I looked pretty silly performing parking lot maneuvers with the truck nose diving as I changed directions. I look a lot less silly now as I'm still not an expert at positioning the truck in small spaces. Overall I like the 1PD mode and its more aggressive regen. If I need less regen, I just don't let off as much.

That all said, having an adjustable regen setting would be a nice addition.

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