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Just got back - I tried to get all your questions answered

Here you go:

  1. Range - 300 miles with 1000 lb payload (I asked the definition of payload and was told it included the bed, frunk and passenger space.)
  2. Some show more range than 200 - see above
  3. Will there be a range extender - not at this time
  4. Can we start ordering back up power system installs - Not until you order your truck
  5. will the 80A charger also work for the Mach-e - YES
  6. When will the build and _price tool be available- Q4 2021
  7. Target production numbers for 2022 - NOT SAYING
  8. Which trim levels when - FALL 2021
  9. Estimate of first year delivery #’s and date - MID 2022 for early RSVP - NO #’s
  10. Will PRO have same color options as XLT and move - COLOR OPTIONS CURRENTLY ON WEB
  11. can we add 360 camera all cart - NO
  12. When will we see official trim levels - FALL 2021
  13. Same colors as current 150 -NO
  14. Will Fiord/SunRun kits be available in advance - NO
  15. Price for fully loaded platinum - $89K
  16. DC fast charging curve same as Mach E better - BETTER
  17. How long will it charge at 125 - 150 MAX BUT BETTER THAN MACH E
  18. Will there be an 8’ bed - MAYBE LATER
  19. No ADM’s ? - THEY ARE TRYING TO AVOID THEM
  20. Is the Silver prototype ‘ice blue silver’ - YES
  21. Confirmation that the Pro extended range is fleet only. - CONFIRMED
  22. 60k is the minimum to purchase the extended range - YES
  23. Charging over 200kWh - NO
  24. First Edition model - NO
  25. Range drop when towing - YES
  26. Will the DC-AC inverter panel for the Intelligent Backup Power be a standard part of the Charge Station Pro or an optional add-on to the 80A EVSE included with the Extended Range battery models? - ADD ON
  27. Month that orders start - FALL 2021
  28. Why is Ford refusing to sell the Pro extended range to standard consumers - NO IDEA
  29. Charge Profile - FLATTER THAN MACH-E - 150 MAX FOR NOW
  30. Will there be a propulsion sound - YES
  31. When will order banks open - FALL 2021
  32. Will there be a more off road oriented package available for the Lightning? - NO
  33. Is X-Plan going to be available, for the Lightning, at launch? - NOT SURE YET
  34. Will people with reservations get a chance to experience or even drive the Lightning before ordering? - TEST DRIVE IN SPRING 2022
  35. Is Ford going to take any action to insure dealerships don't charge any dealer markup on ordered Lightnings?
  36. Cloth seats for the Pro - THEY ARE TRYING
  37. Will Blues Clues be available on the XLT or is it exclusive to the Lariat and Platnium? - NOT SURE
  38. Will the twin panel moonroof be available on the XLT? - NO
  39. Can you ask if solar panels are required to use V2G function for battery backup - NOT NEEDED

Other tidbits

- They are trying to keep people placed according to when they paced their orders. Early reservation holders will hopefully place orders late fall or Q4 2021. First deliveries Mid 2022 - may be a little earlier

- 5 to 81 percent in 41 min DC
- 10 min charges up 54 miles
- Test drives next year q2
- Invites to order q4
- If you have a charger already you may get more free kw
- Different levels of Lariet and XLT
- Lariat "Lux" (?) includes larger battery, tow package and other - $10k added?

I came away very impressed - I also have a Rivian RSVP and hope they do something similar soon!!


I reached no to press the RANGE button for you guys at the start of the event. Before they were getting tough!

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Admin Update:

Some photos from the event by Fast911. This F-150 Lightning was priced at $88,000 and the color was Iced Blue Silver.

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I just came from the event, and I can say it was worth getting lots of questions answered.

1. They learned from the failures of opening up orders for Bronco and Mach E. They will do it in waves based on when you placed your reservation. If you placed it in the first hour, you get the chance to order your vehicle before the person who did it a month later.

2. The survey they sent was not a finalized breakdown of the trims and pricing. The strategy was pretty much accurate, so not much will change, but they are using these meetups this year to finalize and improve the vehicle breakdown.

3. They were surprised by the breakdown of the survey, which they failed to predict with the Bronco. The sasquatch package was expected to be only ~20% of the orders on the Bronco, but this ended up being closer to 70%. Same with Lightning, they said over ~60% want a Lariat+ or higher trim, and a majority want the extended range battery. This was not necessarily expected when planing the manufacturing production capacity. Also, less than 10% wanted the pro or base version.

4. Highest region of reservation was California which makes sense based on EV charging capability and higher adoption rates of the EV here. This doesn't mean all vehicles will come here; first, it will be based on reservation time and order confirmation time.

5. As for order confirmation, they plan to have a feedback loop with you to let you know if you have a more Popular order configuration and if you want to change anything to get it faster. You will have to sign a waiver to move the order process into the dealer's hands ( I assume this will get you a better place in line, but it also leaves the opportunity for the dealer to mark up the price). I plan to do everything online and involve my dealer only for pickup.

6. The launch trims were meant to be the jack of all trades, which means being good off-road, able to tow, very fast off the line, etc. Options to get a better road-oriented vehicle with more aerodynamic wheels and tires or a more aggressive offroad look were not the point. Those trims might come later but probably not next year. That's also why they don't have the first edition because there are so many extras that come standard across all trims.


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Thanks for sharing. I hope they do one of these in the NW soon!
 
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What does that mean?
Sorry - they are bundling the charger with the higher end models but realize some people may already have car chargers installed. They'd like to give these people more free kW (Included with the Ford Pass) to make up for the fact they are not receiving a charger.
 

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Wonderful work - Thank you for getting all of these answers!
 

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So that's about 260 miles total range. Being a platinum we will assume the ER battery
 

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Let me say it here. I definitely want the Pro version. I don't even want the extended battery if it was available for non-fleet.
I’m with you. C’mon cloth seats!

What does26 mean? What is EVSE? Does it mean you can’t use truck as house backup power if you don’t have ER battery?

Lastly, bummer on IBS. Looks like a pale silver. I’m now focused on CG or RR I think.
 

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Sorry - they are bundling the charger with the higher end models but realize some people may already have car chargers installed. They'd like to give these people more free kW (Included with the Ford Pass) to make up for the fact they are not receiving a charger.
So, instead of the pro charger, they'll throw in a few hundred EA kWh?.
 

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So, instead of the pro charger, they'll throw in a few hundred EA kWh?.
The 80amp charger is probably worth $2000-3000. At average $0.40/ kwh charging that better be a hell of a lot of kwh free. I would think they'll give you the free Dcfc on top of the 80amp pro charger
 
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  1. Charge Profile - FLATTER THAN MACH-E - 150 MAX FOR NOW
If the max is 150kW, then it holds that all the way to 80%... otherwise, it's not getting from 15% to 80% (~104kW) in just 41 mins.

Great info. Thanks for doing this!

 

 
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