BlueOval Charge Network expands Plug & Charge to IONNA and Ford Charge

[K6CCC]

There is also nothing to say that any other vin-specific information is provided to Tesla, or others, when you initiate a charge thru the FORD App, or any other way. In that case, that vendor is sending the charge activation to Tesla.
If you use the Tesla app, yes, you may be providing that full vin IF you have given it to them, which may be a requirement when you create your profile, of course.

I don't have specific information, but I don't believe that is correct. If you plug into a Tesla (or any other Plug and Charge location), all you have to do is plug in and charging will start - no app required in most cases (some do). The vehicle has to tell the charger who you are so that the charger can know who to bill. With your thought that only the manufacturer is sent, then Ford would not know who to bill. The vehicle must identify itself - and the VIN is the logical identification to use.

As I said, some chargers that are Plug and Charge for Fords require activation from an app prior to unlocking the charging cable from the charger, or before starting the charge. That might be the Ford app or the charger network app. My sample size is small as I have used Tesla SuperChargers only three times without a Tesla subscription prior to installing 240V charging at home. I just plugged in and charging started and was billed to the Plug and Charge saved credit card. Since that time any time I charged at Tesla or EA, I had a membership and used their app prior to plugging in. I have also used EVGo once, BP Pulse once, and PowerFlex quite a few times and all used their own app to start (none of those are Plug and Charge).

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[flabrent]

I don't have specific information, but I don't believe that is correct. If you plug into a Tesla (or any other Plug and Charge location), all you have to do is plug in and charging will start - no app required in most cases (some do). The vehicle has to tell the charger who you are so that the charger can know who to bill. With your thought that only the manufacturer is sent, then Ford would not know who to bill. The vehicle must identify itself - and the VIN is the logical identification to use.
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That's how the Tesla chargers worked on my recent trip to Birmingham AL.
I would open the charge door on the truck, grab the adapter from under the back seat, attach the adapter to the Tesla cable, plug into the truck and bingo! No app needed. Shortly after charging my phone would show "Ford Credit $.." charged to my AMEX.

 

[Charge_Rob]

I don't have specific information, but I don't believe that is correct. If you plug into a Tesla (or any other Plug and Charge location), all you have to do is plug in and charging will start - no app required in most cases (some do). The vehicle has to tell the charger who you are so that the charger can know who to bill. With your thought that only the manufacturer is sent, then Ford would not know who to bill. The vehicle must identify itself - and the VIN is the logical identification to use.

As I said, some chargers that are Plug and Charge for Fords require activation from an app prior to unlocking the charging cable from the charger, or before starting the charge. That might be the Ford app or the charger network app. My sample size is small as I have used Tesla SuperChargers only three times without a Tesla subscription prior to installing 240V charging at home. I just plugged in and charging started and was billed to the Plug and Charge saved credit card. Since that time any time I charged at Tesla or EA, I had a membership and used their app prior to plugging in. I have also used EVGo once, BP Pulse once, and PowerFlex quite a few times and all used their own app to start (none of those are Plug and Charge).

Plug & Charge is a LOT more complicated than just sharing a VIN. There's a unique contract certificate installed on your vehicle and a unique ID generated which is shared between the vehicle and the charger, but it's not the VIN, it's the eMAID (e-Mobility Account Identifier) - that lets the charger identify that it's a Ford driver that plugged in, and Ford has provided a trusted certificate that they'll get paid (by Ford) for the charge (and you'll pay Ford) - but not which Ford driver plugged in - they don't know all your information.

EVgo and bp pulse may not be Plug & Charge but they ARE in BlueOval Charge Network - no additional apps required, just use the Ford app to activate.

 

[hturnerfamily]

I don't have specific information, but I don't believe that is correct. If you plug into a Tesla (or any other Plug and Charge location), all you have to do is plug in and charging will start - no app required in most cases (some do). The vehicle has to tell the charger who you are so that the charger can know who to bill. With your thought that only the manufacturer is sent, then Ford would not know who to bill. The vehicle must identify itself - and the VIN is the logical identification to use.
I was not referring to being able to simply plug in and start charging, though, as you are alluding to, but that in order to get the MEMBERSHIP DISCOUNT RATE, you must initiate the charge from THEIR app... plug N Charge will NOT facilitate this, for us, like it might for Tesla owners... and NO, the vehicle does not have to 'identify itself', it just has to show Tesla that it is a vehicle with the correct credentials, such as one within the Ford BlueOval Network. This also does not necessarily pass the VIN # thru the system, but just enough basic info to create the certificate approval. Tesla does not, therefore, know 'who' your are, but only that you are a 'FORD' ev.

As I said, some chargers that are Plug and Charge for Fords require activation from an app prior to unlocking the charging cable from the charger, or before starting the charge. That might be the Ford app or the charger network app. I've never seen in 3 years and many, many different PNC charge locations that you don't simply Plug In and initiate the charge session - that's actually WHY it's call PlugNCharge - there is nothing else required.

My sample size is small as I have used Tesla SuperChargers only three times without a Tesla subscription prior to installing 240V charging at home. I just plugged in and charging started and was billed to the Plug and Charge saved credit card(I think you're meaning that you were charged THRU the FORD BlueOval account to your preferred card with them).
Since that time any time I charged at Tesla or EA, I had a membership and used their app prior to plugging in. (Yes, as this is the ONLY current method to receive the membership RATE, as PNC will not)
I have also used EVGo once, BP Pulse once, and PowerFlex quite a few times and all used their own app to start (none of those are Plug and Charge). Correct, although EVgo is part of the CHARGEPOINT Network, and is also within the BlueOval account, and you can certainly use your FORD App to initiate a charge

 

[K6CCC]

As I said, some chargers that are Plug and Charge for Fords require activation from an app prior to unlocking the charging cable from the charger, or before starting the charge. That might be the Ford app or the charger network app. I've never seen in 3 years and many, many different PNC charge locations that you don't simply Plug In and initiate the charge session - that's actually WHY it's call PlugNCharge - there is nothing else required.

I have absolutely been to chargers that are Plug and Charge, but the cable will not release from the charger until activated. The ones I'm thinking of are L2, not DCFC.

 

[Ekiehn]

As I said, some chargers that are Plug and Charge for Fords require activation from an app prior to unlocking the charging cable from the charger, or before starting the charge. That might be the Ford app or the charger network app. I've never seen in 3 years and many, many different PNC charge locations that you don't simply Plug In and initiate the charge session - that's actually WHY it's call PlugNCharge - there is nothing else required.

My sample size is small as I have used Tesla SuperChargers only three times without a Tesla subscription prior to installing 240V charging at home. I just plugged in and charging started and was billed to the Plug and Charge saved credit card(I think you're meaning that you were charged THRU the FORD BlueOval account to your preferred card with them).
Since that time any time I charged at Tesla or EA, I had a membership and used their app prior to plugging in. (Yes, as this is the ONLY current method to receive the membership RATE, as PNC will not)
I have also used EVGo once, BP Pulse once, and PowerFlex quite a few times and all used their own app to start (none of those are Plug and Charge). Correct, although EVgo is part of the CHARGEPOINT Network, and is also within the BlueOval account, and you can certainly use your FORD App to initiate a charge

Just to muddy the waters a little... EVGo has what they call Autocharge which works just like PlugNCharge I that at any EVGo station you just plug in, it authenticates and starts charging. BENEFIT: at EVGo stations you get your discount, BENEFIT: at all other charging stations that might use EVGo's system autocharge is active so you just plug in (GM, Flying J etc...) but you don't get the discount...Still faster than any app..

 

[LUXMAN]

Some news coming out of our charging team - they're excited to announce that the BlueOval Charge Network is expanding Plug & Charge access to IONNA and Ford Charge, with more networks to come next year.

As many of you know, Plug & Charge is the easiest way to pay for charging – simply plug in and with your BlueOval Charge Network account, your payment will be handled automatically.

This expands the list of networks that support Plug & Charge technology, which already includes Electrify America, EVolve NY, and Tesla Superchargers.

IONNA​

Since joining the BlueOval Charge Network earlier this year, IONNA has continued adding more 400 kW chargers at a growing list of Rechargeries across the US. With more than 1,100 fast chargers open or under construction and plans to grow to over 30,000 by 2030, as IONNA grows, so does your ability to get charged up with the simplicity of Plug & Charge. Starting today, all IONNA chargers support Plug & Charge for Ford vehicles through the BlueOval Charge Network.

Ford Charge​

With over 1,200 chargers at more than 330 Ford dealerships across the US and Canada, Plug & Charge will make getting charged up with Ford Charge even easier. Plug & Charge is available at select Ford Charge dealers today, and will be expanding to all Ford Charge dealers by early 2026. Until then, check the Ford app to verify if the location is Plug & Charge enabled, and pay with the Ford app at locations that haven’t received Plug & Charge yet.

Looking Ahead​

Plug & Charge will further expand to additional BlueOval Charge Network partners - including Shell Recharge. Keep checking the Ford app to see which BlueOval Charge Network stations are Plug & Charge capable.

Additionally, there is some extra Plug & Charge news for Canadian customers – starting now, Canadian customers who cross the border have access to Electrify America chargers within the BlueOval Charge Network for the first time, including with Plug & Charge!

With this exciting announcement, the list of BlueOval Charge Network partners now includes 21 networks which can be activated with the Ford app – of which 6 also support the simplicity of Plug & Charge:

• BC Hydro
• Blink
• bp pulse
• ChargePoint
• ChargeSmart EV
• Circuit Électrique
• Electrify America (supports Plug & Charge)
• EV Connect
• EVgo
• EVolve NY (supports Plug & Charge)
• FLO
• Ford Charge (supports Plug & Charge)
• FPL EVolution
• Francis Energy
• InCharge
• IONNA (supports Plug & Charge)
• Mercedes-Benz High-Power Charging
• Pilot Flying J
• Red E
• Shell Recharge (Plug & Charge coming soon to select locations)
• Tesla Superchargers (supports Plug & Charge)

As a reminder, when you’re at a charger, you can use your BlueOval Charge Network account to start charging in two ways:

• Plug & Charge (at supported network partners)
• Ford mobile app activation (at all network partners)

If you’re not enrolled in BlueOval Charge Network, you can quickly enroll from the Ford app at no cost – just tap Connected Services.

Happy charging!

- Brian (not AI) from Ford, and (more importantly) the king of charging himself, @Charge_Rob

Dealers use the charging spots to park their ICE vehicles BTW

 

[Wendy]

Some friends are applying to see if they can get into a grant program to help fund the building of a Charging Station. They need to find a partner charging network to be part of this program. They asked EA but were given a 'pass' because there will not be 10 charging stations.

The location is E. Washington, just a few blocks from the intersection of 17 and 28, about 50' off the highway. The nearest Level 3 charging is 25 miles away.

The power company will allow (3) Level 3 stations. The design is for pull-through stations to accommodate lots of trailers coming and going to the State Parks and camping/fishing/hunting spots in the area.

I was wondering if anyone has suggestions for another network to contact, or if you have any contacts and could get them into the right place to pursue this. Thanks!

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