Could it be this easy or is there a lot more besides the outlets and wiring?

[jwrezz]

I found this on eBay. My truck has only the 2.4kw PPOB. Would this plug in to something behind the outlets that is already in my truck and give me the 30amp 240v outlet?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2668566401...+cab+pickup+4-door|Engine:battery+ev+(ev/bev)

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[K6CCC]

Definitely more to it than that. That's just the outlet panel. The far bigger piece of the puzzle is the 7200 watt 120/240 volt inverter.
There is a thread here on the forum of someone who did successfully add the 7200 watt inverter and get it working.

 

[jwrezz]

I'd love to find that and judge for myself it it's worth the effort/cost against just getting some batteries and an eg4 12k inverter.

 

[hturnerfamily]

the Optional 9.6kw ProPower is a totally Separate 240v INVERTER, and, of course, the additional Outlet package in the bed - but, the wiring is different, too, as the typical Lightning will still have a set of 120v outlets in the bed, although they are wired in series with the cab and frunk outlets, all using the same 120v 2.4kw INVERTER in the front.
With the 9.6kw ProPower option, ALL the bed outlets are wired from the rear 240v INVERTER.
The 240v 30amp outlet is created by the combination of the two 120v 'Side A' and 'Side B' hot wires from the INVERTER, and the other two sets of 120v outlets are wired, individually, from Side A, and the other from Side B.

A secondary 240v INVERTER also means that you would need the additional and separate output wiring and connections from the battery pack. It's probably not that simple.

 

[TaxmanHog]

The 240v 'rear' inverter is 7.2kw.

 

[bc1]

The 240v 'rear' inverter is 7.2kw.

Are you saying the 9.6 kw Pro Power option is not 9.6 kw but instead 7.2 kw and that is all the output we have? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Blochead21]

There’s a whole thread about this already.

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...g-pro-power-onboard-9-6kw-inverter-oem.15816/

 

[chl]

Are you saying the 9.6 kw Pro Power option is not 9.6 kw but instead 7.2 kw and that is all the output we have? Inquiring minds want to know.

If you have the 9600W PPOB...

The bed 240V x 30A = 7200W on one outlet.
The rest of the outlets in the bed are 120v x 20A = 2400W

The 240V outlet provide a split phase voltage/current like you have in your house service panel most likely. It is provided by 2 x 120v inverters that are in sync.

The other 120v inverter that powers the 120v outlets is NOT in sync with the other inverters, so the voltages cannot be combined - someone checked that with an oscilloscope.

A V2X such as the Ford HIS (when it works) or the SIGenergy system could provide more power (the full 9600W) by getting DC voltage directly from the battery via the charge port and inverting it with a separate inverter to provide 240V x 40A to your service panel using an appropriate transfer switch to prevent back feeding the utility of course.

So if you don't have the 230V x 30A bed outlet, that could be an option for home backup, but it will be expensive.

Check out the other threads here on the forum for more info.

 

[PreservedSwine]

Are you saying the 9.6 kw Pro Power option is not 9.6 kw but instead 7.2 kw and that is all the output we have? Inquiring minds want to know.

Sort of yes.
Sort of no.

You get a single 7.2KW 240 output (NEMA 30)

You also get several 120v 20Amp outlets for a grand total of 9.6KW that can run simultaneously.

 

[TaxmanHog]

The outlets in the bed are fed by the 7.2 KW inverter, includes both 240v/120v outlets in total.

The other 120v outlets in the truck cabin and frunk are fed by another inverter rated at 2.4 KW.

 

[RLXXI]

Are you saying the 9.6 kw Pro Power option is not 9.6 kw but instead 7.2 kw and that is all the output we have? Inquiring minds want to know.

Combination of two inverters one is 7.2kW the other is 2.4kW = 9.6kW total.

 

[JayF]

I was led to believe my truck didn't have PP 9.6 and couldn't support home power. This isn't true! I've got the 9.6, and this thread led me to go look. Oh boy. I'll have to check out Genelink >

 

[hturnerfamily]

to correct 'incorrect' assumption about FORD's advertisement of their Optional 9.6kwProPowerOnboard:

- First, every Lightning comes with STOCK 120v power, from a front-mounted INVERTER, to supply 120v outlets thruout the Frunk, Cab, and Bed... this is a 120v 20amp INVERTER, hence 2.4kw of Power.
You can certainly also make use of these outlets to run extension cords to power your home needs, directly to appliances, lights, or whatever need you might have, although long extension cords will be needed, and you'll need to have easy access to each appliance, etc.

- Second, Lightnings with the OPTIONAL 9.6kwProPowerOnboard, or those higher trims with it included as a STOCK Feature, come with an ADDITIONAL Inverter in the rear, to supply 240v to a 240v 30amp twist-lock 'generator' style outlet in the bed, AND also to the TWO sets of 120v 'household' outlets in the bed. (with this setup, the front 120v Inverter ONLY supplies power to the Frunk and Cab outlets, while the rear 240v Inverter supplies ALL the outlets in the bed, both 240v and 120v)... this means that the rear bed has 7.2kw of Power. And, yes, you can use these outlets the same way to supply direct power to anything you wish, including extension cords into your home, or, in the usage of the 240v 30amp outlet, even possibly directly to your Main Panel, generally via additional equipment, adapters, etc. This is what MOST owners will do to have the MOST power available in a 'whole home' power situation. But, it is only 7.2kw of power, maximum, from the single 30amp outlet.

- Third, the TWO Inverters, therefore, supply a Combined TOTAL Maximum of 9.6kw of Power...


BUT...
Don't let FORD's Advertisements, and the "9.6kwProPowerOnboard" terminology throw you off - as the MAXIMUM you can draw from the rear 240v 30amp outlet is, well, 7.2kw of Power, unless you want to run extension cords from the Frunk/Cab outlets for another 2.4kw of maximum Power, at the same time... hence the total of 9.6...

what many might initially, and incorrectly, assume, as that using the single rear 240v outlet will somehow get you the total of 9.6kw of power... but, the ONLY way that you, or anyone with a Lightning, can receive 9.6kw of power, from a single cable, is to use Ford's Ford Charge Station Pro and Home Integration System (installed by Sunrun)... which then is able to pull the full 9.6kw amount via the Charge Port's output... not from any of the truck's outlets, themselves. This is an expensive endeavor, though, and, as some have found, may also not work so 'easily' for many installations. It's a great 'idea', but, in reality, not a very practical method. The initial ads by FORD made this look so easy, smooth, and almost 'free', as part of the ProPowerOnboard, and yet, it's hardly that.

In reality, what I've found, personally, is that we generally way, way OVERESTIMATE what amount of real power we would need in a power outage. We might look at our 200amp Main Panel in our home and just 'assume' that we MUST require most all of this if we were to happen to lose utility power, and, yet, during times of power outages, and especially catastrophes, we certainly WON'T be living and doing quite the same as during normal times. Yes, we want to keep our fridge operating, and yet that requires actually very little 'power'... probably much less than we might fear. We also think we need things like HOT WATER, and CLOTHES DRYING, but, probably not really, if it comes down to it. We probably DO need more obvious needs, like using the microwave, powering lights, powering fans, and, maybe, powering the air conditioning system. All of this, though can all be done easily with just the simple 240v 30amp outlet in the bed of the truck, if you have 9.6ProPowerOnboard... but, even then, if you 'only' had the basic 2.4kw of 120v power, extension cords to your basic needs would still be EASILY possible.

 

[ZSC100]

Been hesitant to post on this thread after being ashamed that I started the 9.6kW ProPower mod thread over 3yrs ago now and still to my knowledge no one has done it. I am currently working on this again just recently and hopefully will have it figured out soon:

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...rter-pro-power-onboard-9-6kw-technical.36705/

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