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DOE - eGallon cost comparisons by State & USA

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The data is a little aged at this site, still posting for information, surprised how costly it is in Massachusetts compared to other states. Still cheaper than the $3.32 per gallon of diesel for my 2012 F250 PSD

https://www.energy.gov/maps/egallon

 

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I really can’t figure out how they come up with the numbers. For Illinois, an e-gallon supposedly costs $1.12. That’s less than 3.5 cents per kWh. Sign me up for that rate!!
 

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This is the reason I want to switch to electric. Here in BC gas is $6.23/gallon whereas an egallon is $1.02.
Right now I drive 11km to work and it costs me about $3.75 round trip. With the truck I estimate it would cost about $0.80
 

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I really can’t figure out how they come up with the numbers. For Illinois, an e-gallon supposedly costs $1.12. That’s less than 3.5 cents per kWh. Sign me up for that rate!!
How did you figure $0.035 per kWh? Pretty sure they used a higher number.
 

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How did you figure $0.035 per kWh? Pretty sure they used a higher number.
A gallon of gasoline is the energy equivalent of 33 kWh. $1.12 / 33 = about .035.
 


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The EV's are "running on empty". Battery on the F150EV is equivalent to driving with a 3 gallon fuel tank with 1 gallon of gas equal to 33kWh and the F150EV battery is 100kWh.

Electric drives are much more energy efficient.
 

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To simplify, a Lightning will go about 2 miles on a kwh and my electric (with fees and taxes) is 16 cents per kwh so 8 cents/mile. Equivalent for current regular gas prices would be 40 mpg.
 

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A gallon of gasoline is the energy equivalent of 33 kWh. $1.12 / 33 = about .035.
So using this math, are you suggesting that MME with 88 kWh of usable battery has an equivalent of a little more than 2.6 gallons?

Anyway, that's not how eGallon is calculated. They take how far a typical car goes on a gallon of gasoline (probably 25 miles) and then calculates the cost of a typical EV moving that distance. That would be about 8 kWh times average US cost of electricity of $0.13. So the cost of eGallon should be just over $1.00.
 

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Energy.gov hasn't bought a gallon of gas lately have they?

My Time Of Use rate for just energy is 4 cents/KWh. Even at my other house fixed 14 cents/KWh they offer 50% off charging EV at night. So Texas tends to be about 7 cents/KWh which would be 80 mpg??
I can switch to the free nights and weekends and let F150 run house during day. Pretty sure they'd stop that soon enough.
 
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To simplify, a Lightning will go about 2 miles on a kwh and my electric (with fees and taxes) is 16 cents per kwh so 8 cents/mile. Equivalent for current regular gas prices would be 40 mpg.
Using this formula, puts me at ~26 empg ($0.25/kwh & $3.29/gal)
 


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I can switch to the free nights and weekends and let F150 run house during day. Pretty sure they'd stop that soon enough.
I’m currently taking advantage of an EV charging plan my local energy company offers that’s similar to this: 400kWh free each month, and 4.5c/kWh after that. I’d be sad to see that plan go. It’s 1.5 cents per mile to drive my car, absolutely insane.
 

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Thank you for sharing, it’s a nifty little calculator. Want to really fuel up on the cheap? Solar works great for me and probably will for most people on here.
 

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I looked at real costs and imaginary (EPA) mileage estimates.
2015 Lariat 3.5 eb - 23 mpg highway (from sticker)
2022 Lightning er - 2.16 miles per kwh (300 miles from 138 kwh)
Sunoco regular - $3.499 per gallon
Duquesne Light - $0.166 per kwh (total rolled in delivery, taxes, etc)

Costs per mile for fuel is almost exactly half for Lighning compared to 2015 Lariat. Or $1.75 per gallon gasoline equivalent.
 

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I looked at real costs and imaginary (EPA) mileage estimates.
2015 Lariat 3.5 eb - 23 mpg highway (from sticker)
2022 Lightning er - 2.16 miles per kwh (300 miles from 138 kwh)
Sunoco regular - $3.499 per gallon
Duquesne Light - $0.166 per kwh (total rolled in delivery, taxes, etc)

Costs per mile for fuel is almost exactly half for Lighning compared to 2015 Lariat. Or $1.75 per gallon gasoline equivalent.
Yup, and I doubt you would get 23mpg on the highway in the 2015 either - unless you are driving 45 in the slow lane.
 

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So using this math, are you suggesting that MME with 88 kWh of usable battery has an equivalent of a little more than 2.6 gallons?

Anyway, that's not how eGallon is calculated. They take how far a typical car goes on a gallon of gasoline (probably 25 miles) and then calculates the cost of a typical EV moving that distance. That would be about 8 kWh times average US cost of electricity of $0.13. So the cost of eGallon should be just over $1.00.
That may be how they’re doing it, but it’s really nonsensical. That’s like having a different price per gallon of gasoline depending on the MPG of a car.

It's this kind of voodoo science that gives ammunition to the anti-EV crowd.

 

 
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