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Estimated range of a SR battery truck @ 65 or 60 MPH?

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I’ve seen the test of the PRO SR making it 213 miles 100%-0% battery @ 70 MPH in moderate weather, not much elevation change, and no battery degradation. I haven’t found much concrete information on the range or efficiency at a flat 65 MPH or 60 MPH in favorable weather.

I live in SW Missouri where there are almost no DCFC once you leave the I44 corridor. I’m trying to estimate where I would be able to take the truck should I get the opportunity to buy a SR PRO. Fortunately, most of our highways are between 60 and 65 MPH speed limits.

Also, what number is everyone using for Wh/mi @65 in A Better Route Planner? It defaults to 596 when I select a SR PRO to play around with which seems pretty poor given people are reporting 2.1-2.2 @ 70. If I did my math right, 596 Wh/mi would be 1.67 Kw/m.
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I’ve seen the test of the PRO SR making it 213 miles 100%-0% battery @ 70 MPH in moderate weather, not much elevation change, and no battery degradation. I haven’t found much concrete information on the range or efficiency at a flat 65 MPH or 60 MPH in favorable weather.

I live in SW Missouri where there are almost no DCFC once you leave the I44 corridor. I’m trying to estimate where I would be able to take the truck should I get the opportunity to buy a SR PRO. Fortunately, most of our highways are between 60 and 65 MPH speed limits.

Also, what number is everyone using for Wh/mi @65 in A Better Route Planner? It defaults to 596 when I select a SR PRO to play around with which seems pretty poor given people are reporting 2.1-2.2 @ 70. If I did my math right, 596 Wh/mi would be 1.67 Kw/m.
FWIW, I’m using an OBD dongle to feed info to ABRP. My even mix of 69 MPH (BlueCruise, 1-pedal) highway driving, combined with my City and country road drives (~4 mph over SL, 1-pedal, not towing), has currently calibrated my Lariat ER Lightning’s KWh use as 2.03 mi/kWh (492 Wh/mi) @ 65 mph with an 80% confidence rating.

I have an upcoming 500+ mi road trip coming up and will be using those figures for my trip planning……
 
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Didn't they just up the range a bit?

I find that wind has a rather large impact on my Bolt EV going to coast. Running with wind nets me more even uphill a bit.
 

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I agree. I made a mostly flat, ~60 mi @ 69 mph freeway trip 2 weeks ago and go 2.4 mi/KWh on the first leg with the wind at my back…the return trip 3 hrs later was 1.9.

Last week I made the same trip and got 1.8 mi./KWh on that first leg into a head wind, and 2.4 on the return that same day.

EV driving is sorta like shooting targets with a rifle long distance….windage and elevation are key…….
 

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I’ve seen the test of the PRO SR making it 213 miles 100%-0% battery @ 70 MPH in moderate weather, not much elevation change, and no battery degradation. I haven’t found much concrete information on the range or efficiency at a flat 65 MPH or 60 MPH in favorable weather.

I live in SW Missouri where there are almost no DCFC once you leave the I44 corridor. I’m trying to estimate where I would be able to take the truck should I get the opportunity to buy a SR PRO. Fortunately, most of our highways are between 60 and 65 MPH speed limits.

Also, what number is everyone using for Wh/mi @65 in A Better Route Planner? It defaults to 596 when I select a SR PRO to play around with which seems pretty poor given people are reporting 2.1-2.2 @ 70. If I did my math right, 596 Wh/mi would be 1.67 Kw/m.
Your range will really start to hurt in the colder months so be aware of that with ALL EVs.
 

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Unless you have chargers every 50 feet, going close to zero is kinda spooky.
 

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I've been letting ABRP calibrate for around 1500 miles so far. It has my Lariat ER at 415wh/mi with this level of confidence:

Ford F-150 Lightning Estimated range of a SR battery truck @ 65 or 60 MPH? 1660696686755


For reference I am pretty good about not using the friction brakes at all, and I drive in 1 pedal mode exclusively. I really only hit the brakes in an emergency. I also use cruise a fair amount, and my drive mode is set to sport almost 100% of the time. Tire pressure is 42 all around, and I haven't hauled much more than luggage.

I would budget for 60-70% of ideal in the dead of winter. That includes 5% battery degradation after a few years. It's likely the truck can do better than that (it's really super efficient for what it is) but none of us have really seen what kind of penalty you get in the cold yet.
 

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I’ve taken a couple of trips in my XLT SR going between 70-75 and have seen 1.6-1.8. The truck is just so fun to accelerate in that my efficiency has been crap.
 

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I've been letting ABRP calibrate for around 1500 miles so far. It has my Lariat ER at 415wh/mi with this level of confidence:

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For reference I am pretty good about not using the friction brakes at all, and I drive in 1 pedal mode exclusively. I really only hit the brakes in an emergency. I also use cruise a fair amount, and my drive mode is set to sport almost 100% of the time. Tire pressure is 42 all around, and I haven't hauled much more than luggage.

I would budget for 60-70% of ideal in the dead of winter. That includes 5% battery degradation after a few years. It's likely the truck can do better than that (it's really super efficient for what it is) but none of us have really seen what kind of penalty you get in the cold yet.
Are you suggesting one pedal mode as the most mi/kWh efficient? I hope you will experiment with it off and coasting more.
 

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Your range will really start to hurt in the colder months so be aware of that with ALL EVs.
Oh definitely. I wouldn’t make any range stretching trips away from home base in the cold for sure. Fortunately, we have a gas CUV still for that.

I’ve been researching EVs and things that affect range and battery longevity since the Lightning was announced and I put my reservation in. So, I’m aware of some of the nuances. There just haven’t been many tests on the Lightning at lower highway speeds. Everyone seems fixated on the higher 70-80 mph interstate speeds in the early reviews.

I’m just trying to gauge how limiting the SR is in ideal weather for the occasional adventure into the sticks to see friends and family and whatnot that are scattered about.
 

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I've been letting ABRP calibrate for around 1500 miles so far. It has my Lariat ER at 415wh/mi with this level of confidence:

1660696686755.png


For reference I am pretty good about not using the friction brakes at all, and I drive in 1 pedal mode exclusively. I really only hit the brakes in an emergency. I also use cruise a fair amount, and my drive mode is set to sport almost 100% of the time. Tire pressure is 42 all around, and I haven't hauled much more than luggage.

I would budget for 60-70% of ideal in the dead of winter. That includes 5% battery degradation after a few years. It's likely the truck can do better than that (it's really super efficient for what it is) but none of us have really seen what kind of penalty you get in the cold yet.
2.41 KWh/mi……not too bad…….
 

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Oh definitely. I wouldn’t make any range stretching trips away from home base in the cold for sure. Fortunately, we have a gas CUV still for that.

I’ve been researching EVs and things that affect range and battery longevity since the Lightning was announced and I put my reservation in. So, I’m aware of some of the nuances. There just haven’t been many tests on the Lightning at lower highway speeds. Everyone seems fixated on the higher 70-80 mph interstate speeds in the early reviews.

I’m just trying to gauge how limiting the SR is in ideal weather for the occasional adventure into the sticks to see friends and family and whatnot that are scattered about.
So glad that you have done your homework on cold temperature effects on EVs.

Driving style has such a huge impact on range that most people don't realize that an EV is not an ICE.

I am a forum moderator / admin on a Honda EV/PHEV/FCV message site and every fall thru early spring, many start complaining about range so I am used to the "cycle" of: defects, warranties, dealer visits, and threats to sue the manufacturer.

I am very fortunate to live in a warm weather part of the country as @bryan995 pointed out that the lowest temps we get are low 60 degrees in the December/January with clear sunny skies.
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