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Failing bearing in front drive unit, just diagnosed at 112,647 miles.

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Folks,

For general information, a good EV tech I had known for years just diagnosed a failing bearing in the front drive unit.

Symptoms: this past Sunday while driving on cruise control at a speed of about 65 mph on a limited access highway I heard a new constant low-volume sound that reflected off the concrete center highway divider. The sound was a low-level thrumming, and only present when the motors were not under load. When I applied the gas pedal, the low level thrumming disappeared. When I (or the cruise control) let off the gas, the low level thrumming reappeared and stayed constant. The thrumming was definitely on the front left side of the truck.

On further testing, the low level thrumming would manifest at and above speeds of about 12 mph. It would grow with increased speed until it plateaued into a constant noticeable although not overwhelming background level, at about above 25 mph. There was some slight, constant gas pedal vibration as well, although far less noticeable.

Today, after some thorough shop testing and road testing, the diagnosis is: a bearing inside the front drive unit which is beginning to fail. The truck is evaluated as "driveable, but..."

Of course (sigh...) my truck is 12,647 miles beyond the Ford extended EV warranty.

The practical choices are two:

- drain the traction battery [edit:] coolant, remove the offending front drive unit (i.e. the front electric motor), disassemble the electric motor, remove and replace the failing bearing, reassemble everything.
- or drain the traction battery [edit:] coolant, remove the offending front motor, replace the entire front motor, reassemble everything.

We are awaiting the status of available front motors before I and the shop make action decisions. Apart from checking the supply of same, the shop estimates that, based on labor costs and the necessary replacement of other electric motor components like single-use stretch bolts etc., the overall price of a bearing replacement vice a full motor replacement would likely be close to a wash.

Assuming I will authorize one or the other (I'm leaning on a full motor replacement right now) I will also request a drain & refill of the rear electric motor's Mercon fluid, as the indicated drain & fill interval is at 140 thousand miles or about 26 thousand miles away now, and since the overall labor to drain & fill the electric motors closely resembles the labor to pull and fix the front motor anyway i.e. drain the traction battery, remove the battery armor plates, etc. etc. This way, both motors would have their drain & fill maintenance mileage reset together.

FYI - the price seems to be around $11 thousand - salty but better than the price of a new car. We've driven the truck far, wide and sometimes, pretty hard hehe.

I am posting this info here for general awareness... maybe it'll be helpful to others.
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Wow....these motors (from what I'd read online anyways) were expected to last 20 years.

When you say drain the battery, do you just mean they need to remove it to access the truck? I don't see why they would need to reduce the SOC. Dropping the battery is less than an hour, Ford parts show the motor ~$4k. So there's $7k in additional hardware and labor to swap out a motor? I would want an itemized estimate, something doesn't add up.
 
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Wow....these motors (from what I'd read online anyways) were expected to last 20 years.

When you say drain the battery, do you just mean they need to remove it to access the truck? I don't see why they would need to reduce the SOC. Dropping the battery is less than an hour, Ford parts show the motor ~$4k. So there's $7k in additional hardware and labor to swap out a motor? I would want an itemized estimate, something doesn't add up.
I mean "drain the battery" as in "drain the coolant system" which has a large portion inside the battery, to my understanding. Then on reassembly, refill and "burp" the complex battery coolant system.

We are still in discussions and researching the parts and component availability across the system. The only known fact is that a key bearing in the front drive unit is beginning to fail.

For some context, back in my 2022 Mach E's days the car's front motor also failed at about 47 thousand miles but in a different way: its internal seals had given way and the Mercon fluid, spreading through non-Mercon motor components began to short out the motor's electric and communication connections to the car's other components. I saw the orange multi-pin connector, disconnected, when that car was up on the lift. Mercon fluid was oozing through and around all the connecting pins in the main orange connector. That was with the original Borg-Warner front motor. The OEM replacement motor began showing the same symptoms about a year later, at around 75 thousand miles... that's when I traded the Mach E for the Lightning.
 
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We did use the truck to its capabilities, towing across the USA, climbing up & down the Rocky Mountain passes, er... "visiting" the Bonneville Salt Flats in western Utah, and last December driving to and across Newfoundland Canada in harsh Winter conditions.

I do wonder whether the near-Arctic Newfoundland experience stressed some components more than usual.. that was indeed a harsh environment.

Of course, this thing is a truck, right? ...not built to be babied as a museum piece haha.
 

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We did use the truck to its capabilities, towing across the USA, climbing up & down the Rocky Mountain passes, er... "visiting" the Bonneville Salt Flats in western Utah, and last December driving to and across Newfoundland Canada in harsh Winter conditions.

I do wonder whether the near-Arctic Newfoundland experience stressed some components more than usual.. that was indeed a harsh environment.

Of course, this thing is a truck, right? ...not built to be babied as a museum piece haha.
A propos our December trip across Newfoundland Canda - a road detail comes to mind.

Canadian provinces from what we saw use road salt far less than what we saw in Maine etc.. Across Newfoundland the road treatment consisted of really fine inert stuff which was either originally sand or was rock aggregate ground up to the consistency of fine sand. Newfoundland being essentially a large rock of granite and magma, I assume that these hard igneous rocks was the base material.

Despite repeated washings when I got back to Virginia, this fine hard sand kept coming out of the truck's bottom crevices, well into late March.

I now wonder, and this is pure conjecture, whether the fine hard sand got into a part of the front drive unit, under sub-freezing Newfoundland conditions (heated metal expansion + very cold weather + two blizzards which means some water melt on heated components) and accelerated this bearing wear. I know bearings tend to be sealed, but...
 

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Good luck with your repair. That price sucks!

Your description of road treatments gives me another reason I'm glad I don't live in an area that gets snow. I can count the number of times I have driven on a road that has been treated due to snow on the fingers of one hand - with spares.
 

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Not to self. At 95k - have dealer replace fluid and provide motor condition status.
Yeah... I had thought about taking the same actions... and then life just got in the way like it usually does 🙄
 

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Here is the guy you want doing your after warranty repairs. I have followed him through his relationship with Out of spec Renew on YouTube and would contact him for any of after warranty major repairs.

https://m.youtube.com/@AlexEVRepair
 
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More clarity: the gear and bearing that appears to be beginning to fail in the front motor drive unit is the regen gear. It obviously takes load in only one direction, when the power is not on load in that unit. This explains the audible symptoms which appear when the truck is coasting or rolling downhill and the gas pedal is not engaged. This regen gear is mounted on a bearing which appears to be the failing subcomponent.

Additional info, perhaps useful for others here: the cost of shipping a used Lightning front motor from one of the breaker / recovery yards listed in post #7 above, from North Dakota to Northern Virginia is quoted today as just under $500, i.e. reasonable for a heavy motor.
 

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Additional info, perhaps useful for others here: the cost of shipping a used Lightning front motor from one of the breaker / recovery yards listed in post #7 above, from North Dakota to Northern Virginia is quoted today as just under $500, i.e. reasonable for a heavy motor.
I didn't know your location in post # 7. But I just researched again using 22201 area code and there are local options for you. Let me know if you need help searching that website.

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