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- 2023 F150 Lighting ER Lariat
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I actually I am pretty sure I am one of the persons here who tried or attempted to love my 2023, very very hard
first of all, I spent about $122000CAD incl tax to buy this truck without any markup, it's very difficult to achieve this in 2022
then everyone knows today you can pick up the same truck for only $87000CAD incl tax and maybe 0.99% interest rate
Afterwards, I spent about $2300CAD to install this stupid 80Amp EVSE that came with the truck. It's actually a terrible charger, as it can only charge lightning. It doesn't work on Tesla or Leaf, and the scheduling always has bugs that charge the car past low rate time sometimes.
I replaced it with Tesla Universal Charger last month, its only 48Amp, but the software is great and it works on both tesla and ford, scheduling always great and always cut power at 7am
Then in order to get software updates, spent almost 800CAD on the mongoose cable, i didn't buy the annual subscription but just 3 day pass.
Then I realized it doesn't work without 12V power supplier, at the time, 20amp charger are expensive, picked up a recommended one from community here, another $350CAD is gone.
Then I notice my 12v battery is weak but it passes the dealer test, have to replace it but too late, actually its not the battery but the 12v bms issue, so I wasted another $200cad on the 12v battery
$$$$ on FDRS + Forscan and also at least 100h spent on the forum here and there flashing software, apply mods, upgrade firmware and other random stuff
Then I bought my A2Z Adapter for supercharger, another couple hundred dollars gone and still didn't have my ford NACS adapter (my order number is 000002xx, one of the very early reservations), i glad i bought it as Ford don't like Canada
Also Odblink with ABRP, oh man, its great, but another $$$ that Ford Nav should have those features built in
Also made other mods to get it work with EA (without mod, i could not plug and charge on EA, and it hurts me in rural area)
too lazy to add more truck mods including bed hard fold over, bed rack, and some other random stuff, box link hook and more
My family love this car, much more comfortable than tesla, and the ride quality is great, the software is where my hate starts...
- I love early software you can control pro power from phone, now its gone
- BC update, still not there yet, but Forscan mod helps, but not native and still some bugs here and there
- not reliable phone app as key, i have both android and ios, both app sucks, need to keep rebooting phone to get key work
- talking about key, why i need a key to add backup code, stupid design
- turn signal camera only works with trailer with hack, why not make it an option without trailer
- still need to start the car to use propower, its so inefficient and i measure no power usage cost about 400-600W when idling
- walk-away lock update can be only done by dealer, WHY!!!
- Bluecruise so expensive, unless 10usd/mo then i will continue buying, Tesla FSD is only 99CAD a month and it can do a lot better than Ford
I have not talked about the range yet, but my battery State of Health is already 95% with 50000km odo, but my tesla is already 83% SoH at 90000km odo, actually not too bad. cant complain
whats next? im not sure actually
maybe another 2 year to switch to Ramcharger? or Sliverdo? I don't know...
comments or 2cents are welcome
I hope ford can see this to hire me to improve their EV program willing to help
first of all, I spent about $122000CAD incl tax to buy this truck without any markup, it's very difficult to achieve this in 2022
then everyone knows today you can pick up the same truck for only $87000CAD incl tax and maybe 0.99% interest rate
Afterwards, I spent about $2300CAD to install this stupid 80Amp EVSE that came with the truck. It's actually a terrible charger, as it can only charge lightning. It doesn't work on Tesla or Leaf, and the scheduling always has bugs that charge the car past low rate time sometimes.
I replaced it with Tesla Universal Charger last month, its only 48Amp, but the software is great and it works on both tesla and ford, scheduling always great and always cut power at 7am
Then in order to get software updates, spent almost 800CAD on the mongoose cable, i didn't buy the annual subscription but just 3 day pass.
Then I realized it doesn't work without 12V power supplier, at the time, 20amp charger are expensive, picked up a recommended one from community here, another $350CAD is gone.
Then I notice my 12v battery is weak but it passes the dealer test, have to replace it but too late, actually its not the battery but the 12v bms issue, so I wasted another $200cad on the 12v battery
$$$$ on FDRS + Forscan and also at least 100h spent on the forum here and there flashing software, apply mods, upgrade firmware and other random stuff
Then I bought my A2Z Adapter for supercharger, another couple hundred dollars gone and still didn't have my ford NACS adapter (my order number is 000002xx, one of the very early reservations), i glad i bought it as Ford don't like Canada
Also Odblink with ABRP, oh man, its great, but another $$$ that Ford Nav should have those features built in
Also made other mods to get it work with EA (without mod, i could not plug and charge on EA, and it hurts me in rural area)
too lazy to add more truck mods including bed hard fold over, bed rack, and some other random stuff, box link hook and more
My family love this car, much more comfortable than tesla, and the ride quality is great, the software is where my hate starts...
- I love early software you can control pro power from phone, now its gone
- BC update, still not there yet, but Forscan mod helps, but not native and still some bugs here and there
- not reliable phone app as key, i have both android and ios, both app sucks, need to keep rebooting phone to get key work
- talking about key, why i need a key to add backup code, stupid design
- turn signal camera only works with trailer with hack, why not make it an option without trailer
- still need to start the car to use propower, its so inefficient and i measure no power usage cost about 400-600W when idling
- walk-away lock update can be only done by dealer, WHY!!!
- Bluecruise so expensive, unless 10usd/mo then i will continue buying, Tesla FSD is only 99CAD a month and it can do a lot better than Ford
I have not talked about the range yet, but my battery State of Health is already 95% with 50000km odo, but my tesla is already 83% SoH at 90000km odo, actually not too bad. cant complain
whats next? im not sure actually
maybe another 2 year to switch to Ramcharger? or Sliverdo? I don't know...
comments or 2cents are welcome
I hope ford can see this to hire me to improve their EV program willing to help
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