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  1. [Updated with Ford statement 2/15/23] 🛑 Lightning Stop Production / Stop Shipment Issued (due to potential battery issue)

    A different take on Ford’s action - this will choke the supply, no need to lower the prices like they had to do with Mach-E.
  2. MY2023 no longer available?

    I didn’t convert my reservation after invitation, and decided to check what’s happening after Dec 4 deadline. The reservation still appears in “My reservations” but there is no order button anymore. Similarly, if I go to configurator - it says “the current model year is no longer available for...
  3. When does wave 4 MY2023 start?

    At this point there is a spelled plan of what Ford plans to do with a lot of room for interpretation what may or may not happen. Given past history I think there is a high probability that MY23 orders will spill out into MY24. Jacking up the prices by Summer 2023 will give the leverage to make...
  4. When does wave 4 MY2023 start?

    The way I read it, it’s just that most efficient dealers will get their production faster. Probably to avoid any inventory on the lot; dealerships who hoarded trucks on their lots will get gently “spanked”. In the end of the day, seems like preorder crowd of 200k angry people will get the...
  5. New price increase again - $5K on 2023 Lightning

    Yeah some have price drops by 5k or so. Just curious, has anyone reach out to dealers who list their stuff close to msrp on those platforms - are they actually going to honor the listed price? Or is it a classic bait and switch.
  6. New price increase again - $5K on 2023 Lightning

    Well, we can only vote with our wallets now.
  7. New price increase again - $5K on 2023 Lightning

    2015-16 reports were showing that Ford makes about 13k profit per each ice f150 sold. When people made that report it included all R&D costs to produce those trucks. I wonder if recent reorganization into “separate” ev company puts R&D and costs into electric only model, putting the pressure to...
  8. How many more months for day 1 reservation holders?

    Not sure what you meant… of course everyone can do their research without investing into companies. “As a shareholder” meaning that I have interest in following their corporate game. Everyone was happy when shares rose from $5 to $20 on the news of Lightning. Now people pointing out to me on...
  9. How many more months for day 1 reservation holders?

    As a shareholder, now I can see why the head of supply chain was elevated to CEO at Apple, not a marketing guy. Detroit companies wish to be valuated like silicone valley ones but yet make strange moves. I agree that it is not fair comparison (Apples to apples lol) however lessons of success...
  10. How many more months for day 1 reservation holders?

    I placed an order on 5/20, still waiting for the invite. I believe on 5/21 Farley tweeted they had 40-44k reservations. @TaxmanHog had a projection that there should be 16-17k built for MY22. Those are known variables, unknowns are how badly...
  11. âś… 10/10 Lightning Build Week Group

    Does it mean that people who were pushed to 10/17 and so on will be getting MY23 trucks instead of my22?
  12. Wave 3 invites who don't order won't be cancelled; possible Pro / XLT ordering reopening

    Doesn’t mean that this HAS to be this way. Ford could’ve taken the leadership, make it straight and transparent. If people have to wait, they will wait. Heck, most people here did not even squeal much about price raise by $7500, but uncertainty is what on everyone’s minds.
  13. Disappointment Thursday

    Parts, not necessarily chips, are plague of the whole auto industry supply chain. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/19/ford-warns-investors-of-1-billion-in-supply-chain-costs-during-the-third-quarter.html
  14. Wave 3 invites who don't order won't be cancelled; possible Pro / XLT ordering reopening

    This makes little sense if Ford is truly ramping up the production. But yeah, we don’t know the numbers for sure, I am just skeptical. I agree with Benny, the definitive statement would be nice. I don’t have extra $20-30 grand to play sharades and raffles.
  15. Pro & XLT trims closed already??? (As of 9/8/2022)

    Make it out like a bandit before trains with golden bricks will stop coming. Quoting FTC press release on a newly proposed auto rule: In the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, the Commission is seeking comment on proposed measures that would: Ban bait-and-switch claims: The proposal would prohibit...
  16. MY23 wave 3 invites by reservation date

    Reservation email 5/20/21 at 4.11pm Got survey but no invite despite being 26/300 at VA dealer. Called ford yesterday and changed my dealership to MD one since it is ZEV state. Surprisingly, MD dealer cannot confirm that my switch went through stating that Ford deals with online preorder stuff...
  17. 6,842 Lightnings sold so far, 2,373 in July 2022 đź“Š

    This is underwhelming. F stock sliding from $25 to $11 from initial hype about Lightning to production numbers in July tells quite a story despite promises of producing 80k in 2023 and 160k in 2024. Reality check doesn’t add up.
  18. Ford sends out Lightning survey email - Help us plan for your F-150 Lightning Order

    I had my reservation on 05/20 and did not get recent ordering opens soon email. That email is not really anything hopeful because I had it last December bet never got an invite. Checked with my dealership, i’m 26th. On the survey though, just got it and answered only interested in pro. I have my...


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