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NW Arkansas. Mainly the softer trade in market. When I ordered I was able to justify the increased price because my trade was worth way more. Now that’s not the case. Higher rates are a factor too. Full tax credit was very appealing but at the end of the day the numbers just did not work out.

As a data point… got the shipped notification 11/29 (11/26 built notification) and vehicle arrived on 12/6. Unfortunately most likely not taking delivery but hopefully the data point gives some of you folks hope that you can receive by year end.

As in, only one of those can be actually purchased? 😎

So basically, Lariat only.

Well I ordered, but yeah, that is food for thought. What if you did nothing…🤔

I wonder why Ford didn’t just let people wait in line for a PRO. It could have been as simple as “based on your place in line we expect it to be available to order no earlier than fall 2024.” No price protection, no order extension, just a place on the waiting list in order of reservation...

Since it’s come to this point- do you have it in writing or an otherwise easy to prove format that the salesperson told you it is refundable? Because an employee acting as agent of their employer would usually create a binding contract. In other words, because they told you refundable at first...

I did. Was told they are indeed sold out except if you have a fleet number.

Did you select onboard scales delete? That would be the $650.

I would go ahead and order XLT as long as the deposit is refundable. Then wait and see what happens, maybe they open up reservations for the PRO, maybe not, but at least when the truck is delivered you have the option to sell back to the dealer, cancel, or take delivery. You cancel now you get...

It’s working… XLt and up only.

Mine says 41040.

Sounds about right for Ford software… Just as laggy as my Mach E sometimes.

$2500 is one thing. The other is that the dealer was holding the order invite hostage and not releasing it to grab this extra cash from the customer. The more we accept it the more we normalize these dealer shenanigans. I think it’s at least worth the fight with Ford corporate if push comes to...

If the ordering page doesn’t show the ADM then I would order it and then fight it with Ford corporate solely based off of that. They should not be throwing customers any curve balls like that. What you were told and what is the official order is a completely separate thing. They know you have...

Apologies, typo. I meant I don’t get the impression they are limiting volume as a whole. Although certainly the PRO is limited.

Yes and the F-150 is far from a luxury product- plus Ford’s sales model and dealer experience leaves a lot to be desired if the comparison is against the cachet of those luxury brands. I just don’t see that type of intention here with the Lightning. F-150 has been and is a household, high volume...

Won’t be $0, at worst it still qualifies for the manufacturing location and that is half or $3,750.

I I get it. But it’s still as short sighted as dealers charging egregious ADMs. If they truly want to pivot on the dealership model, then they need to stop giving the impression that they’re still bending over backwards for them.

For Tesla, if I understand correctly… you order the vehicle in a particular trim. People that ordered a higher trim later than you might have gotten theirs first, which isn’t unreasonable, but they’ll go by timestamp within a particular style/trim. I think where people are miffed is that early...