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Rivian does this as well. Clearly it can be done.

How long does it take to reach that speed with no precondition?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, but I worded it poorly. Seems there is not a whole lot of benefit to the precondition since the battery warms aggressively once you start charging anyway. Shaves a few minutes off your charge time maybe, but for a 3-hour trip a few extra minutes doesn't move...

Not like Wiscosin severe, but we do take some long trips for skiing where the temps are usually around the 20s (occasionally high teens).

Here's a question that questions the question itself. Bear with my while I lay this out. I don't hate the FordNav, but there are several other apps I prefer in general. The only reason I may use FordNav are (1) to get a better range estimate, or (2) for preconditioning the battery before DCFC...

Fair point.

Thanks Rick - is 77 the optimal temp for charging or for driving? And do you know if there would be active cooling in the same way like if you were driving to a DC charger on a hot day?

You're listening to Christmas songs well into February. How can we trust anything you say?

We know the battery is supposed to precondition to optimize charging when you have a charging stop programmed as your destination in FordNav. But is there any way to verify that this is happening? Like an indicator or a message on the screen? If not that, then what about monitoring battery temp...

You can do it twice (or one extended session of 30 mins), and then it's unavailable until you power it up in person.

Yeah I hear you. It's not that the GoM is poorly designed or programmed, but rather that it's being asked to do a very difficult job in predicting what future driving conditions will be. I find that it's very hard to get people to stop thinking in terms of "how many miles do I have left" because...

This is a great explanation. Do you mind if I ask your source of information?

I'm afraid your vehicle is totaled. I'll take it off your hands for $1200.

This. It's a cool gimmick, but definitely not worth the trouble to add after market IMO.

Aside from the effects on the battery, isn't there an efficiency drop when charging to 100%? There is always some amount of loss (i.e. the kWh drawn is always a bit greater than the kWh captured in the battery), and then doesn't that loss factor become greater as the battery approaches 100%?

What is the cost of the membership?

Also has more aggressive regen-braking which can contribue to better efficiency.

Follow-up question on this... After sending a charger location from ChargeAssist app to FordNav as a destination will FordNav recognize it as a charging destination and precondition the battery?

Agreed. If I'm reading it correctly then they are using the word "charger" in both senses of the word within the same paragraph. But I think my interpretation is correct because it wouldn't make sense to have one location per 50 miles nor would it make sense to have only one plug per location.

I read it as 4 stations per 50 miles and 4 chargers per station, for a total of 16 "plugs" per 50 miles - which feels much more reasonable.