The single most ridiculous post I have read on this forum, and there have been some doozies. Predicting an apocalypse without evidence. Again, we don't need so many charging stations. We already have them - everyone with a home owns one. And you charge at NIGHT folks, when the grid is lightly taxed. Chill.
Nope, not even close - at LEAST 90% of charging will be at home or work, not at public charging stations. At least 90%, probably 95%+. There simply are not that many folks in living situations without parking. It sucks for those with street parking, and for those, we need solutions, but it is small relative number. New apartments and condos are getting charging, and older multifamily properties are being retrofitted, fast. I say this as an investor with interests in over 1,000 convenience store/ gas station operations - they all seem to think EV charging is an answer - it simply is not - the idea that 50% of them can make it by through converting to charging is absurd. Almost everyone with an EV leaves home each morning with a full tank - but no one has a gasoline tank at home. Okay, I do have a 1,000 gallon underground tank and gas pump at my oyster farm, but that is a rare circumstance. Gas stations have a big issue coming.
And gas companies aren't going to be paying for petroleum brownfield cleanup at their stations. It's going to be the taxpayer (assuming they don't sit on valuable real estate).
40% of US drivers are renters and 10% of owned homes are multifamily units without charging so a large population that does not have home charging.
Actually more apts are going up with NO PARKING or very limited parking, most without EV charging. Our most modern apts and condos built along tram lines so can build with no/limited parking.
Because all 290 million drivers are all going to plug in at public chargers at the same time500,000 chargers, cool, that leaves 289 million looking to plug in
Gas stations have had this issue coming for years. The number of stations has been declining for a very long time. And in spite of this reduction, it's still a very low margin business. None of them survive on gasoline sales.
People living in apartments without parking don't have cars, so don't need charging.
The fuel cost for EV isn't even remotely comparable to high cost of gas. The average cost in US is $0.13. My TOU cost now fluctuates between $0.03 and $0.06 per kWh. But let's consider worst case scenario. Using EA charging at $0.31 per kWh. Assuming 3 miles per kWh and 30 mpg, thast works out to 1 gallon equivalent of around $3.00. Compare that to nearly $4.00 per gallon that people in Phoenix are paying today. And all this without considering opportunities to charge for free.
Actually they do. Even in apts with parking, it is not enough for everyone and local garages and lots rent them space. Lots of discussion here on the apts with no parking being built along the expanding Metro lines. It ends up impacting parking in the neighborhood so we've gone to area parking permits.
Sorry that's all totally bogus. Most of the bogosity has to do with fossil fuel lobby that puts out crazy numbers claiming to show battery production is dirtier than engine, transmission and synthetic oils production. And then they compound the lie by including electricity generation emissions but not oil extraction, refining etc.
BS!!! If they have parking then they can have charging. This is an imagined problem!!!
I recently drove through some long stretches of highway in New Mexico. There are lots of collections of “towns” with multiple “auto repair” shops from the 1950s. Every single one of them is collapsing into the ground. There’s old completely unused and broken gas stations too.
But they don't and the build out is not cheap. Bottomline is roughly 50% of drivers will not have home charging. Many homes can't have home charging and some apartments do have it.
