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  1. 400 mile range from the Lightning?

    On a warm day with the HVAC off, empty except for driver, and don't go over 50 mph, you could get 400 miles I think.
  2. Help 5/27 reservation

    You have 2 chances: slim and none.
  3. Transition to EV, why Ford/GM still need dealers to sell the trucks?

    What most OEMS are comfortable doing is manufacturing and wholesaling. Retail, well that's complicated considering about 2% of customers have the product and financial acumen to make direct to customer sales feasible. Like the 2% that buys things like electric vehicles.
  4. Dealers with NO MY22 Lightning allocations?

    Saw a Guesstimation that a couple of hundred trucks will be allocated to Michigan and there's 137 dealers. I'm #2 at my dealer and #1 got a 1st wave invite. Looking iffy for me to get one.
  5. Ford is Reengineering Mach-E in Real Time and the F-150 Lightning Will Benefit

    Agile - "Minimum Viable Product" AKA full of bugs we'll fix if the customer complains.
  6. Ford is Reengineering Mach-E in Real Time and the F-150 Lightning Will Benefit

    Let's say Ford wanted to get a product out on the market without waiting for years while the engineering was perfected and the assembly procedures specialized around it. Hoses and clamps on an EV aren't stressed, the hottest loop is the cabin heat and it's probably 160F vs over 200F on an ICE...
  7. Wave 3

    Read carefully. We are waiting for our invite from Ford to order. Lariat ER. Hagen Ford, Bay City MI
  8. DOE - eGallon cost comparisons by State & USA

    In Michigan we have a $130 EV surcharge on registration fees. Some day in the future, probably we end up with a fee based on miles driven per year.
  9. Wave 3

    All I know is I am next up at my dealer. One wave 1 invite, none in wave 2. Salesman says they still have no info on how many allocations they will get this year, doubts any dealer actually knows for sure at this point.
  10. Wave 3 Feb 3rd ~ XLT SR

    Fixed it for you. Yes, I have forgotten to plug in for an overnight charging session.
  11. Wave 3 Feb 3rd ~ XLT SR

    As an owner of a 238 mile EPA EV, it's extended range or nothing. YMMV.
  12. Dealer Allocation

    Last night, Tim Bartz of Long McArthur Ford in Salina KS, said they were allocated two, yes two, Lightnings for this year. I put in an inquiry with my dealer. I know I am high on the priority list but I might not be high enough.
  13. DOE - eGallon cost comparisons by State & USA

    To simplify, a Lightning will go about 2 miles on a kwh and my electric (with fees and taxes) is 16 cents per kwh so 8 cents/mile. Equivalent for current regular gas prices would be 40 mpg.
  14. Reserved within first 15 minutes, but dealer just told me I won't get a Lightning until 2023.

    What I heard (and you have to listen multiple times since Elon is somewhat incoherent, LOL) is that they are still figuring out how to build it at an affordable price. Which means initial costing came out ridiculously expensive. Maybe it's not so easy to fold 1/8" stainless sheet like origami.
  15. When will Wave 1 or 2 be Scheduled for Production?

    Wouldn't assume production scheduling is related to wave #, or when you order. What you order, definitely.
  16. 2022 Lightning Pro sold out [update: confirmed]

    Cybertruck update upcoming on Jan 26. What Musk has said is that initial production will be plaid and quad motor versions. $$$ versions, in other words.
  17. It's Gonna Be a Long 2 Weeks

    It won't be if you keep under 60 on a 70F day with the HVAC off.
  18. Granger Says They Have 2 Lightnings Allocated

    I guess you don't follow the saga of Model Y orders lately. Receiving your vehicle very much depends on what and where besides when you ordered.
  19. Livestream rep says 150,000 production run for 2022MY F-150 Lightnings??

    There must have been a miraculous multiplication of batteries to add 150K Lightnings on top of increased production of Mach Es.




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