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  1. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    In the past, the market has always responded to the consumer. Shoot, nowadays you don’t even have to go to the grocery store to get your groceries. Amazon delivers almost anything you desire, no more Montgomery Wards, Sears or K-Marts. In due time there may not be the dealerships as we know them...
  2. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    12000 miles / 20 miles per gallon times $3.50 a gallon if you can find that price is 3 times what you claim???? And I got a feeling it’s gonna get worse.
  3. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    Yea, In CO I get reminded every year when I pay for my vehicle tags, $700+ for my PB when NM is just $59 bucks.
  4. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    I stayed with my local dealer. I didn’t jump ship even when I was told I could save thousands of dollars. I still may not get a Lightning but at least I live in a ZEV state where my odds of getting one are a bit better. I truly hope Farley and company can find a way to build more trucks even if...
  5. F-150 Lightning EV Tax Credits & Rebates - Discussions & Predictions

    I agree…. I also don’t care for the Child Tax Credit, they too should be charged a Carbon Tax. After all that’s were it all starts, every child born will carry with them for the rest of their life a Carbon footprint. Say $600 per year until age 21.
  6. ? Official Info: F-150 Lightning Reservations to Order Conversion & Invitation Process. Dealer Pricing Options

    Looks like the US is not getting the Pro next year either. Very disappointing if the information shared turns out to be true. I can’t afford those prices, guess the Rich and Famous will end up with mine?
  7. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    I’m very sorry to hear that. What has happened to our civilization anymore? No morals, no core guiding principles? Is it truly all about money anymore? All I can relate to would be my personal experience with my dealer in Durango, CO who does have values, appreciation for its customer base, and...
  8. F-150 Lightning EV Tax Credits & Rebates - Discussions & Predictions

    I asked for $20M to perform a scientific study that; “Those that go fishing will catch more fish than those that don’t.” Honestly, anyone that has taken/has the time to read over the BBB will quickly realize what a freakin scam this is to the American People. Ye there is some good in there but...
  9. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    I think the “Rich and Famous” will in fact, pay that price. You said every Joe Schmoe can have one, I said they can’t. I’m betting Ford will minimize, if not, prevent, dealerships from doing just that. I stated in a previous post that, Ford is on a roll, stock is up, and, Farley doesn’t need...
  10. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    Close… but not quite accurate. Here’s what we know so far; 1) you must have placed a reservation prior to the cut off date. 2) you must get an invite from Ford to place an order. 3) your order must be one of those units that Ford is going to build. 4) the truck is actually closer to $40k than...
  11. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    You don’t know that, you have no proof what Ford is going to do until they do it. I agree with you that Ford should (and they may) take address into account and limit/prevent the dealerships of doing just what you fear. How about we wait and see what/how does Ford handle this priority stuff and...
  12. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    I don’t think you get my drift, competitive marketing is entirely different idea. Getting this new product out so everyone across the county can see for themselves that EV’s can work in our society. The world is changing no matter what “We the People” think. Just like computers, cellphones, and...
  13. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    Exactly! But the fact remains that those dealerships in areas of wealth are going to take advantage of the “Rich and Famous” people in our country. Shoot… it wouldn’t surprise me if Elon Musk himself purchased ALL those vehicles at that price simply to keep that product off the streets. Let’s...
  14. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    I’m not sure this is a bad thing? Some dealerships desire the ability to remain loyal to its local customer group and not so much to that guy that places an order with a dealership that is hundreds of miles away and will never return for service or accessories. We have seen already dealerships...
  15. Dealers asking for $5K - $30K ADM markup on 2022 F150 Lightning!

    Say it loud…. Spread the word, give these dealerships the attention they desire. I’m almost certain Farley wants these trucks spread across the country at the MSRP Ford establishes. Ford is on a roll right now, stock prices up, he doesn’t need bad publicity caused by greedy dealers. Ford holds...
  16. F150 Lightning Poll: which trim level are you going to order?

    I’m gonna order whatever they have available at the time I place my order, but, it will start out as the Pro, then XLT, then XLT plus and so on. I got the 2021 PB XLT for long runs and towing, I need a truck to hook up to my solar panels for daily driver.




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