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Just to summarize this thread even further after meeting with several solar installers and talking to my local utility, the cheapest method would be as follows. F150 Lightning Pro or XLT SR with 9.6 Pro power option ($56k ish) *Lariat ER would be $80k Plus whatever solar setup fits your needs...

Here are links to the two inverters and my list of pros and cons. Please tell me what you think. Again, I plan to run zero export. If someone knows of another inverter that does all this, I would like to hear about it. Also, please let me know if you see any mistakes in my assesment...

I'm going thru the same thing now getting quotes and researching products. I like REC and Panasonic panels since they come with a labor warranty and have the highest performance over time and I liked SolarEdge for the all in one solution and they are made in USA. Only REC, Panasonic, and...

Thats great info! would you mind sharing why you like the Sol Ark hybrid inverter? I like the SolarEdge energy Hub because it really seems to offer everything including built in EV charging. https://www.solaredge.com/sites/default/files/single_phase_inverter_integrated_ev_charger_SetApp_na.pdf

The SolarEdge Energy hub does not support V2H directly like the Sunrun system does. In the event of an outage with the SolarEdge system, you would rely on the 7.2kw@240v inverter located in the truck bed. Essentially, your LIghtning would just become a backup generator for the system. In...

How is that a complication? Most of the hybrid solar inverters you see now can blend and or prioritize multiple inputs (PV, generator, battery, grid). Many even include software for maximizing profit to time of use and net metering.

I see what you're saying, so if you don't plan to net meter or back feed the grid, it really won't matter? Our net metering policies are terrible. Higher base rate, demand surcharge, and wholesale buyback.

There appear to be 4 different models from 4k to 10k as shown in this brochure. https://aeeexpress.com/crsdocroot/content/images/products/large/e4b8ae6e467c726e10dc614933665f7d.pdf

I would assume it's treated just like a DC coupled backup battery. My biggest concern is the 4kw bidirectional inverter rating. If Ford is only gonna allow 4kw to be pulled out of the battery in back up or off grid mode, this system will be useless. That being said, there appear to be...

So does anyone know the actual "max PV allowed"? Also, does this inverter only allow 2 strings or 4?

That's actually pretty good. They specifically mention an "off grid mode" and it looks like it can run an AC coupled or DC coupled external battery which adds some flexibility. It would still be pretty difficult to run a whole house with only 9.6kw and 40 amps though. You would need propane...

Can someone post the full specs of the Delta/Sunrun inverter? So the Sunrun HIS won't operate off grid? I'm looking at the SolarEdge energy hub Hybrid 11.8kw inverter (with EV level 2 Charging built in) instead of the Sunrun equipment and buy the much cheaper F150 Lightning Pro and just feed...

yeah, lots of unknowns at this point. I'm trying to figure out if the Ford wall inverter is DC coupled or AC coupled and what other home battery systems it would be compatible with. 9.6kw isn't enough to run a whole house off grid so I'm also wondering if the inverters can be run in parallel...

Hrmmm, does this mean the Sunrun system could be used as a completely off grid system?

I've learned from from my Nissan Leaf +, "it's always faster to drive slower". Driving 60-65 and charging less gets you there faster.

Met with a Solar installer yesterday and he described what I'm trying to do is much like treating your home like an RV. You have a Hybrid inverter that controls and blends power inputs from Solar/ House Battery/Generator/Grid. The Hybrid inverter also controls output to devices and battery...

more efficient yes but also more complicated since those items wouldn't be able to run if the F150 wasn't home. In a perfect world, everything would be DC coupled from the panels, to the EV charger, to the backup battery, to the truck, and finally the inverter. Then there would only be one AC...

yeah, I was never a fan of the home brewed Tesla pack idea with custom 400v inverters from China. I think we have arrived at a time when a typical 48v system can accomplish all the selfish solar goals. The F150 Lightning Pro not only gives you a place to dump your excess energy (rather than...

an average day for me is 35-40 miles. I already have a Leaf + and it works very well for me and has a similar range to the Lightning Pro. We would still have a gas vehicle for the foreseeable future.

That's sort of my point. Just use the 30 amp plug to feed the battery charger and save the money. This would be a poor man's setup I suppose. If I could afford the extended range plus another $10k for all the fancy birectional Sunrun stuff, that would be great but I can't so I'm wondering how...