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Not sure what you mean by "anymore than the rest of the used car segment" which is rocketing down as we speak. Carvana is dead and lots of dealers are going to eat it soon. As for scalping, people who try to buy up all the early stock of a limited item for the purpose of reselling it at a...

I don't want to quibble over thousands, but anything under about 88K would be a loss after taxes in California and the break even number differs depending on where you live.

Yeah, I only mean the resale scalping market was dead. I'm goin gto update that title.

The last 3 Lariat ER sales on cars-n-bids was 86K/82K/83K. They are selling near MSRP. Anyone would be nuts to pay a big markup at this point.

I happen to agree with your original point that many people are buying above their means, but that wasn't the point of my post. I was only trying to understand the market size for 80K trucks. I can afford a Lightning by any metric, but I consider it a luxury purchase, yet I'm still going to buy...

OK BOOMER ... Just kidding, honestly, it doesn't matter to me what age anyone is. I don't care. Just understand that I wasn't picking on anyone or trying to do anything other than take an educated guess at how robust the market will be for 80K trucks going forward.

>>>>> a projection on how many people are buying luxury trucks to understand how saturated the market is <<<<< That was the purpose. Not to worry about who should buy luxury things or not. Do you understand now?

Then why are you so b-hurt about a post that is just a projection on how many people are buying luxury trucks? If you can afford it, then what difference does it make to you? 200k income IS FROM financial advisors but it's just a rule of thumb. People have different situations, OBVIOUSLY. Like...

Wow. Why you shook? I like cringed to death literally at your sus inability to understand how my lit AF projection was based on statistics, averages, and financial planning rules-of-thumb, no cap. Most of my line items were facts taken from statistical data. The 200K income item was common...

That number I gave was based on typical financial planning guides, not something that I invented. And an "assumption" AKA "hypothesis" isn't a judgement, just a starting point for a generalization. I don't give an S about what other people buy or if they can "afford" it, but was only trying to...

Dunno, but I have an Avalanche coming in two weeks.

That's a good point. If a buyer puts down 20% and finances the rest for 7 years, it's going to be around $1000/mo in payments, but if you can save $400/mo in gas, then maybe it works out overall. The volume seller for Ford is probably a mid-optioned XLT at $60k so the extra 20K w/ the fuel...

- cars-n-bids have had no Lightning auctions for the last 10 days when they used to have 3 going at a time most of the time. - ebay motors has many auctions that didn't not sell and the ones that did sell were MSRP + $8-10K for the Lariat ER which is a wash after taxes. So it looks like: -...

Thanks. I do remember seeing that when I ordered, but once you order that notice seems to go away.

Thanks. I definitely have not seen any document like this so I'm assuming you get it at the dealer at the time of purchase. (assuming that the dealer doesn't try to play games)

Does anyone know where the original Ford statement saying they would honor the 2022 price was? I remember seeing it when ordering, but not sure if they ever sent an email or something else to confirm.

Needs a 200kWh option!

I like it. I hope I like the Avalanche I have ordered as much lol. I don't know if these colors will age well, but whatever...

It's the same as the Raptor and I think everyone is ordering it. :)