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When I bought my truck I asked the sales rep if there were ANY subscriptions associated with the truck, and He said NO, there were not.
He lied (no surprise). The XLT may not have Bluecruise-HandsFree subscription, but it still has Sirius, BlueOval, and Navigation subscriptions. All of them are optional of course, so maybe he thought you were asking about required subscriptions, but where do you draw the line? If Ford pulled the "heated steering wheel and seats are now subscriptions" or locked DCFC to 75kW without a subscription, we'd be up in arms. I'm comfortable with the subscriptions as-is, as there is server and data costs associated with what we can subscribe to. Ongoing cost of running the service necessitates ongoing cost to use it. Navigation walks the line. There's constant feed of traffic, construction, and other real-time updates, but when that subscription runs out I'm hoping there's a once a year update for the maps-only option.
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He lied (no surprise). The XLT may not have Bluecruise-HandsFree subscription, but it still has Sirius, BlueOval, and Navigation subscriptions. All of them are optional of course, so maybe he thought you were asking about required subscriptions, but where do you draw the line? If Ford pulled the "heated steering wheel and seats are now subscriptions" or locked DCFC to 75kW without a subscription, we'd be up in arms. I'm comfortable with the subscriptions as-is, as there is server and data costs associated with what we can subscribe to. Ongoing cost of running the service necessitates ongoing cost to use it. Navigation walks the line. There's constant feed of traffic, construction, and other real-time updates, but when that subscription runs out I'm hoping there's a once a year update for the maps-only option.
As long as android auto is a thing, I really don't care about built in Navigation. I know it does battery preconditioning for charging, but I haven't found that to be a big deal and it makes the stupidest routing and charging decisions.
 

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As long as android auto is a thing, I really don't care about built in Navigation. I know it does battery preconditioning for charging, but I haven't found that to be a big deal and it makes the stupidest routing and charging decisions.
Normally agree, but built-in nav has been a backup for me when in low/no connectivity places and I forgot to download the maps to my phone first.
 

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Normally agree, but built-in nav has been a backup for me when in low/no connectivity places and I forgot to download the maps to my phone first.
Yeah, I have used it when Android Auto is being stupid and won't connect, but I always end up regretting it. Last time I tried, it wanted me to go down an off road trail (i.e. mud and ~2' tall grass, not a dirt road) for a bit before getting back on the road!
 

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80A AC charging is another.
I'm sure this wasn't Ford just being cheap, but with connected vehicles they can easily see that only 15% (random number for the sake of the discussion) of the owners charge their truck (Level2) at 80A, in that case why keep it when "no one" is using it.
 

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He lied (no surprise). The XLT may not have Bluecruise-HandsFree subscription, but it still has Sirius, BlueOval, and Navigation subscriptions. All of them are optional of course, so maybe he thought you were asking about required subscriptions, but where do you draw the line? If Ford pulled the "heated steering wheel and seats are now subscriptions" or locked DCFC to 75kW without a subscription, we'd be up in arms. I'm comfortable with the subscriptions as-is, as there is server and data costs associated with what we can subscribe to. Ongoing cost of running the service necessitates ongoing cost to use it. Navigation walks the line. There's constant feed of traffic, construction, and other real-time updates, but when that subscription runs out I'm hoping there's a once a year update for the maps-only option.
Well, if Nav. is a subscription, then when it's over, I'll pull out my Garmin that has lifetime maps . . .
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