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...Is that standard these days for the new F150s?
Even in the Raptor and on the Limited trim, it's an option.

I don't know if it's because Ford is greedy, or if it's to eke out that last tiny percentage of MPG for CAFE numbers.

I do know that even if it's not factory ordered, pretty much every truck will get it as a dealer add-on unless it's a work truck.

I work with a lot of plate steel and sheet metal, so I hate bedliners, even my last truck with the hard plastic tray would catch the edge of a sheet and get stuck. The spray in ones are even worse, when you're tugging on a 100lb piece of metal with a razor sharp edge and the static friction gives way to sliding friction, it's not desirable.

Still, I'm surprised that it's not standard to include bedliner in the higher trims like Platinum and Limited.
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It looks like the bed is already lined and not bare metal. Is that standard these days for the new F150s?
Don’t think so, but if that’s the case for the Lightning, I’m here for it.
 

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Don’t think so, but if that’s the case for the Lightning, I’m here for it.
My dealer says it is an extra $595 for Ford to spray the bed liner. However, the dealer said they have found adding this extra tends to delay shipment of the truck. My dealer worked out a deal with a local bed liner company to match the price and provide a lifetime warranty on it. So I will have the Lightning delivered and have the bed sprayed when it arrives.
 

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Hmm, they have to keep that 12v battery charged so are they going to add an electric motor to spin a 12v alternator or step down the voltage as already mentioned.

I'm a mechanic by trade so these are the questions I need to know the answers to.
There will be a DC2DC converter that will transform the high voltage down to 12 V to keep the battery charged. What you will find important as a mechanic is that all EVs will have two sources of 12 V power. If you want to work on these vehicles and NOT get coolant all over your shop floor as I did is to make sure you disable both! :oops:
 

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Hmm, they have to keep that 12v battery charged so are they going to add an electric motor to spin a 12v alternator or step down the voltage as already mentioned.

I'm a mechanic by trade so these are the questions I need to know the answers to.
There's a converter in the system somewhere to keep the 12 volt battery charged. Look up a mustang mach-e teardown by Sandy Munro and I'm sure they show or talk about it somewhere.
 

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There's a converter in the system somewhere to keep the 12 volt battery charged. Look up a mustang mach-e teardown by Sandy Munro and I'm sure they show or talk about it somewhere.
Maybe like a DC to DC converter mentioned above? ;)
 

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Ok see this is where I get confused why the need for the extra battery. We have a ton of supply in the main battery, a DC to DC convertor to charge, why not just regulate it to the regular 12v electrical system?

Why go thru all the trouble to use it to charge another battery when it can be regulated with a body control module like they've used in F 150's since 2011?

There must be a simple explanation why. The tinkerer curiosity in me must know LOL. I know one things for certain, just like my current truck, I WILL purchase the shop manual for it. Might even take one of Ford's online classes but those are $$$$ or convince my old dealer to let me in their system for new model training.
Everything has to be redundant in any EV that has any level of automation. Thus the need to disable both systems before you work on them.

I learned the hard way when we attempted to remove a computer from a vehicle a couple of years ago and I ended up with coolant all over my lab floor when the system turned back on (with the DC2DC converter supplying the power to the pump).
 

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Thanks! Great find! Any info on where this event was?
Looks like AMB for the Pro. Not my taste. Rapid red for XLT? That’s pretty great looking.
I took the pictures. The event was for Ford employees and was held on the Rouge site between the Stamping plant and Tool and Die buildings.
 

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Ok see this is where I get confused why the need for the extra battery. We have a ton of supply in the main battery, a DC to DC convertor to charge, why not just regulate it to the regular 12v electrical system?

Why go thru all the trouble to use it to charge another battery when it can be regulated with a body control module like they've used in F 150's since 2011?

There must be a simple explanation why. The tinkerer curiosity in me must know LOL. I know one things for certain, just like my current truck, I WILL purchase the shop manual for it. Might even take one of Ford's online classes but those are $$$$ or convince my old dealer to let me in their system for new model training.
There is still a 12v battery for safety. The low voltage battery is used to switch the high voltage battery on and off through contacts.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopn...use-ordinary-12-volt-batteries-1847209291/amp
 

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Too bad they won't sell that pro extended piece of junk to the public. They can keep their power strip trucks until they get real about selling something people actually want and can use for a reasonable price. I canceled my reservation because they refuse to sell the Pro extended Batt version and their customer service regarding it has been abysmal.
 

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Too bad they won't sell that pro extended piece of junk to the public. They can keep their power strip trucks until they get real about selling something people actually want and can use for a reasonable price. I canceled my reservation because they refuse to sell the Pro extended Batt version and their customer service regarding it has been abysmal.
Does that mean I move up one spot on the reservation list? Cool.....
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