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  1. List: F-150 Lightning dealers that do / don't apply ADM (price markup)

    That is another name for ADM or dealer add on, but it is not outrageous IMHO.
  2. When does wave 4 MY2023 start?

    My understanding is the the F150L under $80k will be eligible for some amt. Of tax credit, but no one knows how much.
  3. When does wave 4 MY2023 start?

    Wave 4 must be huge. I reserved when Ford already had >100k reservations and supposedly there are over 100 reservations ahead of me at the dealer. Tsunami!?
  4. When does wave 4 MY2023 start?

    2023.....I stand corrected....but I see 11/18/23 on my screen, so I guess I will take the ride to the end, whenever that is and whatever the result may be.
  5. When does wave 4 MY2023 start?

    Reservation gets canceled 8/31/22 if not converted to order, according to leaked info.
  6. New Wave My2023- invite 10/19

    Got the invite. Went to my Spam folder for whatever reason. Check your spam, in case.
  7. 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning Ordering Information Update

    Maybe Ford is clawing back some profit from fleet orders. Few on this forum a fleet customers, I'd guess.
  8. 2023 Ford F-150 Lightning Ordering Information Update

    It looks like the latest price increase on the Pro was not to make the Pro profitable in 2023, but rather to precondition potential buyers for the relative pricing of trims in 2024. That's my take anyway. It makes very little sense to roll out a headline grabbing 2nd price increase for the Pro...
  9. New price increase again - $5K on 2023 Lightning

    Is the demand for a $40k Pro at time of reservation the same as for a $52k Pro in the current market? Time will tell.
  10. New price increase again - $5K on 2023 Lightning

    Ford did not force anyone into ordering higher trims, or cancel any Pro orders......Ford simply fixed a pricing glitch on the PRO model. Kinda like fixing the payroll glitch for Milton in Office Space. Smoooooth move.
  11. New price increase again - $5K on 2023 Lightning

    The PRO trim at either price is close to unobtainium.... if we are being realistic.
  12. Hedging Decreasing Trade Value (and increased repair costs)

    ^^^^^^^ Been thinking along the same lines as above, recently. Instead of replacing my truck with the Lightning. Replace the DD with a Bolt and keep my ice truck. I had no choice but to replace my old ice truck that died with a slightly less old ice truck earlier this year.
  13. Ford sets 5 new requirements for EV dealers - including remote delivery, fast chargers & non-negotiable pricing

    Makes sense to start with Model E, but I would like to see pricing transparency across all lines.
  14. Ford made the news in BC (Canada) and not in a good way.

    Ford has apparently pulled a "Rivian" move on our Canadian friends....except Ford is not back-tracking. Ford will undoubtedly still sell every Lightning they make, even though I think Ford is underestimating potential future consequences of disparate (in my view unfair) treatment of Canadians...
  15. Buying reasons importance hierarchy ranking -- what's yours?

    Until recently, it was the incredible value of a MY 22 PRO at $40k with $7,500 tax credit, then the utility of a crew cab pickup with frunk, then performance, then low o&m cost.....but that's just me.
  16. List: F-150 Lightning dealers that do / don't apply ADM (price markup)

    I beg to differ. I think both the dealer and Ford suck. Being sucky is not exclusive.
  17. List: F-150 Lightning dealers that do / don't apply ADM (price markup)

    Thanks. I will move my reservation closer to when it looks like I may get an invite, which could be another year at the rate things are going. Maybe the market settles down by then.
  18. List: F-150 Lightning dealers that do / don't apply ADM (price markup)

    That's disappointing. I moved my reservation to Levittown 1 yr ago based on e-mail exchange with the GM confirming no ADM.
  19. Total Lightning Production and Delivery days trending downward (shortening)!

    If you ordered a Pro last Friday, there's good news. Ford is price protecting deferred 2022 Pro orders with a private offer. The POSSIBLE bad news is that APPARENTLY Ford plans to build those Pros during the 3rd qtr of 2023. I could be wrong on what/when Ford next plans to build Pros for...
  20. Poll: 2023 Lightning - Still Ordering?

    If I get an invite for MY 23, I plan to defer, if that's an option. Hopefully, the Silverado EV comes on line in 2024 and is competitive. Fingers crossed my 10 yr old ICE truck lasts a couple more years to handle my hauling/towing and other truck duties. I plan to use the F150L (or Silverado)...




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