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  1. Financing the 2022 Lightning Purchase - Add Your Options

    I told my dealer what Parsons was advertising (not quoting) and they couldn’t match that. One thing I wanted to point out though, is that if you know that your CU limits membership to locals only, or you know the membership requirements in general, that that could help to post here for others...
  2. Financing the 2022 Lightning Purchase - Add Your Options

    Closing the loop on Merrimack - it looks like it’s only for locals, there seems to be no way to join by donating to a local organization or anything. My Parsons saga continues - applied a couple weeks ago, got an email asking if I was able to provide my 2021 tax returns which my accountant...
  3. Would I still qualify for current federal rebate?

    Eureka! It would appear that you’re right. It didn’t help that the “Effective Date” portion and the portion it applied to were 20 pages from each other, nor that the title of that section was “PER VEHICLE DOLLAR LIMITATION” which could be interpreted as MSRP. Thank you from someone without as...
  4. Would I still qualify for current federal rebate?

    I’m a big proponent of, once you correctly define the situation you’re in, you immediately move on to what you can control and what you can’t. I can’t: 1. Take away all of Biden’s pens, or 2. Convince the Treasury Secretary to go on vacation until 12/31 so I/we can get our trucks with the...
  5. âś… 8/1 Lightning Build Week Group

    Very well said and thank you. It’s heartening to hear about how it usually goes from someone who knows the tax system fairly well. The “mishaps“ of course happen, especially to those on the margins like the >$55k car crowd and >$80k truck crowd. Most people don’t have much sympathy for those...
  6. Would I still qualify for current federal rebate?

    I (not a lawyer, nor an accountant) looked around the site yesterday morning when I was going through the text of the bill and somehow missed this thread. Better responses than I've seen anywhere on this, including on the Reddit forum. The only thing I would have to add is that those of us...
  7. âś… 8/1 Lightning Build Week Group

    Yes, except for, in “Exceptions“ on p. 393: 1. Final Assembly - effective immediately upon signing. (we’re fine, we’re made in the USA) 2. Purchase Price limitations (for trucks over $80k) - we are screwed if the truck is over $80k, it’s signed, and the Treasury Secretary issues guidance and we...
  8. âś… 8/1 Lightning Build Week Group

    Do you have any source or precedent for that 1/1/23 date? What’s to stop guidance from being issued earlier?
  9. âś… 8/1 Lightning Build Week Group

    Start reading from page 373 on and you won’t be so confident. Parts like the $80k thing starts whenever the Secretary of the Treasury gives guidance. Sotek seems confident that that’s around January 1 but I don’t see any reference or precedent to support that assumption. The final assembly in...
  10. âś… 8/1 Lightning Build Week Group

    It looks like on p. 393 of the bill, regarding the effective dates, the main section of the bill that affects some of us Lightning orderers is the $80k limit since we pass the "final assembly in North America" test pre-December 31st. Our real deadline (not a lawyer, not a tax professional)...
  11. âś… 8/1 Lightning Build Week Group

    Yeah, definitely get it if you can. You almost have to have a reference to the previous 30(D) tax code on one monitor/split screen and then the new bill on the other and have multiple if-then statements to strike out parts that don’t apply to make any sense of it. I am hoping that the way it is...
  12. âś… 8/1 Lightning Build Week Group

    What an epic journey this is turning into with losing Max Recline and Active Motion and massaging seats and being stuck with a trim that's $12000 more with less range, payload, and towing than the truck I would have otherwise ordered. And spending a lot of time getting the best financing rate...
  13. Efficiency boasting ;)

    See my comment above about the legality/safety of being in N but unless you’re picking up speed at the bottom of the hill I’d rather go slower in the middle of the hill and get some “free” regen then gain speed at the bottom. No sense losing free regen to wind resistance in the middle of the...
  14. Efficiency boasting ;)

    It’s illegal in most states to be in Neutral while driving (I don’t know how they treat stick shifts between gears) so I’d recommend not doing that, especially if curious insurance adjusters are reading forums. It’s a good thing if you’re suddenly incapacitated that the truck will gradually slow...
  15. How much does the FordPass Connect 4G WiFi hotspot service cost per month ?

    Keep in mind that in 10 years you might either have to pay them $500 or whatever it is at that point inflation-adjusted to replace it with a 5G modem. Source: am a current C-Max Energi owner, and chose not to replace the modem so my mobile app can't connect to the car. 3G service went away and...
  16. Efficiency boasting ;)

    I'm not sure about how it works in the truck (mine is being built now) but just driving with OPD off doesn't necessarily mean you're coasting. I just looked up a video online to refresh my memory on how the power delivery/regen gauge looks like driving/regen, but you want to stay out of the...
  17. Use Lightning like a Power Wall? Peak load shaving, not backup?

    I thought the same at first, but Tesla does discounts with multiple battery purchases in a system though. I can't find a price list without requesting a quote from Tesla on their website, but this site reports the cost and I've seen it mentioned a few other places that there are volume discounts...
  18. Financing the 2022 Lightning Purchase - Add Your Options

    Closing the loop on San Francisco Federal Credit Union - SF FCU. They no longer offer the 1% EV discount. I finally got in touch with a customer service rep that could confirm it; the last person I talked to seemed new and had to have a loan officer get back to me, which of course never happened.
  19. EV Tax Credit Expansion Deal Reached by Senate

    I definitely agree with staying within a household budget, but it's not *really* the same as other $80k trucks. First of all, there's not a lot of competition for EV trucks yet, so that drives up prices/desirability, it has the potential to be flipped/not lose much value down the road, and if...
  20. EV Tax Credit Expansion Deal Reached by Senate

    I definitely agree with 99% of what you're saying, but (raises hand) I'm a homeowner in coastal CA and our household income after business expenses/deductions is nowhere near $300k. Even before those deductions it's nowhere near $300k. I'm not a SFH homeowner though, I live in the smaller part...




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