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It better be more than my minivan, which is 1340 lbs. Hoping for something like 1800 or better on something like an XLT (ish)

100 miles is worth an extra $15k if the whole package is under $65,000. Hoping it's an option and I don't need to cut everything else out to make it that price.

No. It's not "clean," but it is objectively better.

Perhaps with an ATS it's different. I'm not clear on that.

I'm caught up in this a little bit for a current solar installation. It has to do with two power sources on your electric panel. There is a 120% rule for the bus loading. If your panel bus matches your service size, that's considered 100% loading. You have 20% extra you can attach at the...

I kid.

231 miles.

Yeah that does look similar...

Oh, I always thought ANC was for road nose. *shrugs* Anyone know if there's differences here between the ICE trims? Is a Lariat quieter than an XLT or XL?

Yup... my Honda Odyssey minivan is better by 40 lbs. I want a truck because on long trips, we hit that with my family and all their crap.

I'm hoping there's a $60-65,000, 300-mile version that Ford failed to deliver.

I'm going to reserve one. By the time I get an invite to order a Lightning, hopefully we'll know a bit more about the Silverado EV. Who knows, maybe they'll have a more affordable long-range version. If not, maybe I'll consider a more-readily-available Lightning pro by 2024. *shrugs* time...

Good point about aero.

I feel like we're just a few years away from true competitive pricing.

One hidden feature I find manufacturers typically include is extra sound deadening at higher trim levels. For example, our Honda Odyssey is an SE, and it has a bit more road noise than the Elite or even the EX-L trims above it that we test drove. Come to find out, the higher trims actually...

Yikes, it's a bloated avalanche... Agreed with all your points, OP. $105k first edition? LOL Summer 2024 - yeah I figured $40k base - yeah right. I think Ford will have more available than GM, and even those are really limited. Probably going to weigh 9000lbs like the Hummer for the 400mi...

I actually like atlas Blue better than velocity blue. That lightning blue looks good too. If only antimatter blue were a few shades lighter, it would probably be my favorite.

Correction - you ain't gonna get the Lightning Blues. ?

Whatever my case may be - I see you have yours all picked out. I hope it's everything we all thought it would be, and I look forward to your thoughts on it :)

I really don't mean to attack you personally, but the pedantics are getting annoying. Someone doesn't need to explicitly say something to be misleading. Ford has been making a mainstream truck for decades and they pitched this one to be the same thing, but electric. All their marketing says...