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  1. Power bank possible???

    If "buy an ICE vehicle" isn't an option for this hypothetical, then why is "charge your EV with an ICE generator"? The whole point of EVs (for most buyers) is to get away from burning fossil fuels. Someone using an ICE generator isn't doing that. The Lightning will come with a 120v/220v...
  2. Lightning Tour spots are open for Daytona, Washington and NY

    I see Oct. 27th as the last one on listed on the Pro tour. Not sure if there are any later dates on the retail tour. The Oct. 26th order date has been confirmed by multiple dealers and at least two Dearborn folks, with screenshots. Ford could delay it, I suppose. But at this point it's more...
  3. Lightning Tour spots are open for Daytona, Washington and NY

    When is the last tour event? Because we already know the order system will open on October 26th.
  4. Potential future EV credit changes [NO POLITICS]

    This is the point of the limits, unfortunately. They are invariably proposed by the politicians that do not want EVs to be subsidized.* *That's not a political statement. It's a simple fact that some politicians don't want EV subsidies, or want to minimize EV subsidies. Whether or not one...
  5. Home Back-Up and 80A EVSE Missing at Launch

    No. Nobody knows yet. Hence all the speculation in this thread.
  6. 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Reservations Reach 120K!

    Agreed. I don't think there's any chance at all that the number would be lower. So, "that's wrong" translates to "we're going for a much higher number than that."
  7. Concept Vehicle - 2024 Lightning Convertible - Clamshell Hardtop

    The frame is the structural member, and would only be stronger with a structural battery. They would do some stiffening of the cab, and include a roll bar as @MudDog has done. But I realized after my earlier response that removing the roof really doesn't affect the vehicle much in a pickup. The...
  8. Concept Vehicle - 2024 Lightning Convertible - Clamshell Hardtop

    I love convertibles and I love trucks. Not sure the two should ever be the same vehicle, though. A clamshell top for a supercrew cab is going to be huge and unwieldy. It'll also take up almost the entirety of the bed when it's down, but I guess you'd just put the top up when hauling...
  9. F150 Lightning Reservation Holder Event - Review Video

    Nose heavy, no. Just raked so that it can handle a payload in the bed without looking like a Carolina Squat. If anything, it'll be tail heavy with a payload (unless the load is evened out between the bed and frunk). But with 4 wheel drive and a low center of gravity that shouldn't be a problem.
  10. 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Reservations Reach 120K!

    The 15k number was never from Ford. It was unsourced, and there has never been an official 2022 number. Since they are attempting to ramp up to 80k/year as soon as possible, we can safely assume that there will be a lot more than 15k in 2022. Ford just doesn't want to make any specific...
  11. More info from Biden's Lightning ride

    Cool stuff! (But the comments on that page are pure cringe.)
  12. More info from Biden's Lightning ride

    He's much more of a train guy, but he understands that Americans love their cars and the only way to get us off oil is to promote the hell out of EVs.
  13. Subtle body changes from ICE to Lightning

    Agree. In fact, almost everything that is different between ICE and Lightning, I prefer the version on Lightning.
  14. Do I need to run new 400 amp service in my house for the Lightning + everything else?

    If anything, it was deigned for home use more than anything, as I believe it's required for home backup power.
  15. F-150 Lightning ordering (order bank open) not until April 2022 ?

    On the contrary, Ford has stated that they will not prioritize one trim over another, and will stick as closely to reservation timestamp as possible.
  16. Blue Cruise option - who is getting it and what trim levels will it be offered on ?

    I believe this to be true. I clicked "uncertain" in the poll, but I'm definitely getting an XLT+, so if we're right then I'm not getting BlueCruise.
  17. Potential future EV credit changes [NO POLITICS]

    That's it. There is no rebate for non-plugin hybrids.
  18. F-150 Lightning Pre-Production Officially Begins at Ford's Rouge EV Center After 150k Reservations!

    Those certainly won't be on the finished trucks. I'm not sure what they are, but they look similar to the spots on motion capture suits for CGI characters in movies. Remember these are preproduction vehicles that will be used for various purposes. It's possible they will be scanning that unit...
  19. Battery pack longevity

    Retired BEV batteries are already being recycled into home batteries, and home batteries into commercial power storage. An aftermarket refurbished BEV battery economy will arise, and if manufacturers' BMSes aren't allowing those refurbished batteries to work properly in their cars, I'm certain...
  20. What will be your first F-150 Lightning upgrades?

    Oh, yeah! Gotta make it free-flowing to expel all those burnt electrons! ?




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