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  1. Dealer ownership changed - deposit refunded?

    Nevermind... I did a search and didn't find anything. But as soon as I posted this a "recommended" thread came up with the same issue. These forums search features are so terrible. But I digress...
  2. Dealer ownership changed - deposit refunded?

    Got this email today. Anyone else have this? Seems the reservation/order process is so convoluted already, this can't be good.
  3. [Oct 10] Email just received from Ford: "What's next for your F-150 Lightning Reservation - Orders will be starting soon"

    Interesting tactic by Ford if they intend to either convert or cancel all existing reservations in the coming year. I will have bigger issues with them sitting on my order than I do with them sitting on my reservation. A lot can happen in a year+ and I don't want to make a commitment that far...
  4. Spotted: Avalanche Lightning XLT (new 2023 color)

    Can't get star white on XLT I thought.
  5. Photos of cloth seats?

    Ah, very nice. Looks like a copy of the ICE XLT's seats. Personally I like these the best of all the options.
  6. Photos of cloth seats?

    Anybody have an XLT willing to share photos of the interior? I've only seen the vinyl Pro and leather Lariat/Platinum interiors. XLT seems like what I'd be going for and I'm curious how it compares to the ICE XLT cloth seats. Sorry if I'm missing it, couldn't find any with the search. Thanks!
  7. 22 XLT vs PRO

    The price jumps between trims is insane, you can't look at it as a cost effectiveness decision on feature costs alone, it will never make sense. If you want certain features you have to pony up. Ford intends to sell an $80k+ truck. There is no other conclusion.
  8. What is up with the color options on the Lightning?

    Found this pretty interesting. Source: https://www.thedrive.com/news/37001/this-graph-shows-how-car-paint-colors-have-gotten-more-boring-over-the-years Still hate it 😖.
  9. What is up with the color options on the Lightning?

    Ugh, these colors suck. The prices suck. I'm more and more out every day. Thanks for ruining a good thing, Ford. OP you forgot to mention the ONLY choice for the interior - Pleasantville Gray! And it's worse than the regular ICE F150 interior. So drab. Bleh.
  10. Ouch!! First Electric Bill since getting the Lightning….yikes!

    Thanks :LOL: I don't have my worksheet in front of me, but it was approximately 10,000mi/year, assuming 0.5 kWh/mi makes 5,000 kWh annual charging usage (very roughly). Electric rate tariffs make a huge difference in costs though. Get on a nighttime savers rate if you can.
  11. Ouch!! First Electric Bill since getting the Lightning….yikes!

    OP - Energy Engineer here. I've done a detailed analysis and I figure a daily-driver Lightning will about double my home energy consumption. Your bill seems to be about in line with what I expect for my circumstances anyway.
  12. ICED BLUE SILVER F-150 Lightning Photos & Club

    It has the premium wheels though. Not sure what else distinguishes them apart. Is the rear window part of the $9000 XLT premium package? This one did not have that.
  13. ICED BLUE SILVER F-150 Lightning Photos & Club

    Saw this XLT premium on our drive between Brighton and Lansing, MI. Still not sold on the iced blue silver, but it looks so awesome.
  14. F-150 Lightning acceleration sound - like it or not?

    Personally I don't mind the sound. I'd probably use it some of the time. But I wouldn't want it all the time. I really love that you can enable/disable it. I'd go back and forth.
  15. Who is installing solar as part of their Lightning purchase?

    Wow, higher than CA! Sorry man. Solar is going to be a great option for you :LOL: ?
  16. Who is installing solar as part of their Lightning purchase?

    For reference I had 3 quotes for a roughly 7.5kW system come in at $21-26k. DIY kit + stamped drawings was $12,500. My neighbor paid $32k for his similar system with a 4th contractor and realized later it was a terrible deal. @LightningShow - keep shopping.
  17. Who is installing solar as part of their Lightning purchase?

    That's amazing. Enjoy it. We have no assistance here in MI and no net metering either; rather "distributed generation" that pays way less for export energy to the grid.
  18. Who is installing solar as part of their Lightning purchase?

    Haha, same here. I'm skeptical of this though, because it limits your buyers somewhat. Some will pay more for it and some won't want it at all. Either way we plan to be here for a long time so it was kind of irrelevant for us. And yes I did see the swing in payback you are seeing too. If...
  19. Who is installing solar as part of their Lightning purchase?

    Not a formal sensitivity analysis, but I played around with it and it definitely affects payback. I was mostly surprised that at 19 cents/kWh payback was still 17 years with an installer. I used a 3% escalation rate, which I think is conservative. Our rates have gone up 30% in the last 4...
  20. Who is installing solar as part of their Lightning purchase?

    Im an energy engineer in Michigan and I just did the whole analysis. I pay $0.19/kWh and the cheapest installer I could find had a 17 year payback for a system sized to make as much energy as I use in a year. Grid-tied panels only, NO storage. So I found a place to make me a kit and give me...


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