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https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...vehicle-charging-action-plan/?utm_source=link

"No later than February 11th, DOT will publish guidance for States and cities to strategically deploy EV charging stations to build out a national network along our nation’s highway system. This guidance will look at where we already have EV charging and where we need—or will need—more of it. It will focus on the needs of disadvantaged and rural communities, catalyze further private investment in EV charging, and ensure we’re smartly connecting to our electric grid. No later than May 13th, DOT will publish standards for EV chargers in the national network to ensure they work, they’re safe, and they’re accessible to everyone."
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"The current network of over 100,000 public chargers operates with different plug types, payment options, data availability, and hardware hookups. Today’s actions will establish a more uniform approach, provide greater convenience for customers, and offer increased confidence for industry. These federal programs will spur additional private sector investments and drive the build-out of a user-friendly, cost-effective, and financially sustainable national network creating well-paying jobs across manufacturing, installation, and operation. A ubiquitous charging infrastructure targeted to meet different consumers’ needs will provide equitable benefits to all Americans and provide flexibility for future investments, effective integration with a clean power system, and support a growing and diversifying fleet of electrified vehicles."
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  • $3 billion in competitive grants for battery minerals and refined materials aimed at accelerating the development of the North American battery supply chain.
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  • Recognizing the need for innovative and practical approaches to battery and critical mineral recycling, the act includes research, development, and demonstration recycling projects ($60 million) and efforts in cooperation with retailers ($15 million) and state and local governments ($50 million) to increase the collection of spent batteries for reuse, recycling or proper disposal. The electric drive vehicle battery recycling and second-life applications program ($200 million) is focused on making electric vehicles batteries (e.g., optimized designs) easier to recycle and utilize in secondary applications before recycling.
  • An additional $750 million “Advanced Energy Manufacturing and Recycling Grant Program” to re-equip, expand or establish an industrial or manufacturing facility to reduce GHG emissions of that facility substantially below current best practices."

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Good news.

The current network of over 100,000 public chargers operates with different plug types, payment options, data availability, and hardware hookups. Today’s actions will establish a more uniform approach, provide greater convenience for customers, and offer increased confidence for industry.
Uniform charge port location? We had similar developmental issues when gas cars were first getting started. With gas cars, there were other considerations for standardization.

"It’s because of these rules that the most convenient possible place—in the center, so you can comfortably fill up from any side—is now illegal."

A non-issue for EV's, the most convenient spot should be the same for everyone. Hopefully the DOT and states will come up with standard. My guess is either the rear or front center. Front center for me as it makes it easier to look get the nose closest to the charger vs. trying to back in and line it up.

CCS will be the connector for US so Tesla will likely evolve to that, all EU Tesla's have the CCS plugs and most of the Tesla chargers have been converted to CCS so Tesla has all the HW for both car and charger to make the transition.
 

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Tesla will have to support their huge fleet of Tesla only connections I'd think unless someone gives them a $500 adapter. Would seem to be more simple to use a Tesla like they use the chadmo adapter. Plug in the Tesla cable to the gizmo and then grab the chadmo cable.

I'd think a next gen charging connection is needed. I could put an pantograph on my car maybe.
 

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Unless they build one here, I'll wait for the flying version.

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Musk announced not that long ago he was planning to allow use of those chargers for everyone. Don't remember seeing any logistics mentioned as to how.
Musk also mentioned a while ago that Cybertruck will be available in 2021.
 

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"They already have adapters and they're not that expensive. Take a look"

I own that one and it is just a L2 destination adapter. It is not to be used on a Super charger.
Tesla did an odd deal where they can use both AC and DC on that same connector unlike what the Ford will use.
 

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This one but they do the exact same thing, same specs. Of course there would be no need to go from Ford connector to a Tesla for me so there is no reason for the other adapters.

Lectron EV charging adapter connects non-Teslas to Tesla Wall Connectors, Mobile Connectors and Destination Chargers, Seemed worth it at the time. On sale at Lectron currently.

But they are all usually made at the same plant in you know where.
 
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The adapters listed in the article are for Tesla L2 chargers. There are adapters available for Tesla to use CCS, but they are fairly pricey. I think they are fairly slow too. I am not aware of any adapters for non-Teslas that can connect to Tesla superchargers.
The bigger issue is that most SuperChargers are not free. They normally just recognize the VIN number of the Tesla and charge the owners card.

As Tesla rolls out the SuperCharger network to non-Tesla owners, the biggest hurdle is that non-Tesla owners will need to sign up for a Tesla account, then tell it which station # you are going to plug into, so it can charge your card, then turn on the power to the station # you requested.

I know of a shopping center near me that claims to offer their SuperChargers for free, but so far I've never tried it, even though I own an 80 Amp Tesla-Tap adapter, because the manufacturer makes a point of telling you NOT to use it with SuperChargers.

One thing I can say is that even if the Tesla Tap worked with a SuperCharger, it wouldn't work even a fraction of the top speed because the Tesla Tap is AC only.

I hope that when Tesla finally opens all the SuperChargers that they offer a DC adapter. It's MUCH faster.

When I plug a DC adapter into my Mach-e, I get about a mile a minute vs 20-37 per hour with AC.
 

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The bigger issue is that most SuperChargers are not free. They normally just recognize the VIN number of the Tesla and charge the owners card.

As Tesla rolls out the SuperCharger network to non-Tesla owners, the biggest hurdle is that non-Tesla owners will need to sign up for a Tesla account, then tell it which station # you are going to plug into, so it can charge your card, then turn on the power to the station # you requested.

I know of a shopping center near me that claims to offer their SuperChargers for free, but so far I've never tried it, even though I own an 80 Amp Tesla-Tap adapter, because the manufacturer makes a point of telling you NOT to use it with SuperChargers.

One thing I can say is that even if the Tesla Tap worked with a SuperCharger, it wouldn't work even a fraction of the top speed because the Tesla Tap is AC only.

I hope that when Tesla finally opens all the SuperChargers that they offer a DC adapter. It's MUCH faster.

When I plug a DC adapter into my Mach-e, I get about a mile a minute vs 20-37 per hour with AC.
Shopping centers cannot offer you anything with respect to Superchargers. I have interests in centers that have Superchargers - we simply have agreements allowing use, no control over the physical operation. You may be confusing this with Tesla destination chargers, which the owner of the location can control. To obtain one of those, the owner MUST agree to provide free access. They are typically found at hotels, but often at other locations. Those are level 2 chargers, like many Tesla owners have in their homes. I often schedule hotels stays around sites that have them (typically two at most hotels these days). The property owner pays for the power in those situations and must sign a contract with Tesla to make them publicly available. Tesla provides the chargers and pays up to $5,000 for installation by a professional electrician. You can find them on Tesla's map and on Plugshare.com
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