Stuff I wished that I had known BEFORE I bought

[P-38]

Yes… we have been waiting on Brian @Ford Motor Company to bring us some news on the HIS. He usually doesn’t respond or comment on it for some reason.

Maybe because y'all keep talking about sueing...

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[Scorpio3d]

Hi BM White,
So I DID add the 9.6 kw Pro power. And yes I know that I can add a generator plug and get most of the way there.

Again, it’s just stuff that I wished that I knew beforehand, really. At home I have BASE power, which being from Texas you should look into. I have 52kWh of battery backup at home, it’s been flawless…. Again, I wished that I had waited a bit as the newest version of the Base Power Batteries can support generator based recharging whereas older batteries can only support grid based recharging. So adding a generator port will let you run your home either off of a generator OR off of the BASE batteries, but they won’t work together.

I have the Emporia classics charger coming. Installer is coming today to rough it in, the unit hasn’t delivered yet.

Again, I am still really happy with the truck, just what I thought was supposed to happen didn’t quite line up with reality…

I looked into Base energy, but it wasn’t that great of a deal since I have solar. I think at the time they would buy it for me for three cents and sell it back to me for nine cents or something along those lines. I know that changed some things, but I haven’t looked back into it.

 

[Scorpio3d]

I spoke to some of the Ford people at the Electrify Expo in Dallas and some of them were on the HIS side of things they wouldn’t (or couldn’t )say much, but from what I could glean from what they did say was that the existing system is what it is. There may be something (better?)coming with the universal EV platform, but I am guessing it won’t work with our vehicles??
Again, this was just what I took from it, but may not be entirely correct!

 

[Newton]

I don’t see how the batteries would know the difference between generator and grid charging. If needed you could put a transfer switch and a plug between the grid connector and the batteries fairly easily - and then charge the batteries from the pro power. You have nearly an ideal system, I’m envious.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

Maybe because y'all keep talking about sueing...

So advertise a system, don’t deliver on the orders, and just ignore people who believed in your advertisements and hope you aren’t served? When has that ever worked?

Also, let’s not forget we all tried to work with ford, sun run, and delta for years to get this to work.

 

[windydrew]

11 kWh is so fast for level 2 honestly. Unless you're using this for very specific cases as a fleet vehicle I almost can't imagine a scenario where 11kWh isn't enough but 17kWH is enough.

You're just struggling on 1.2kWH right now --once you get level 2 setup you'll realize 11kWH is plenty.

I still use the cheap-o mobile charger Ford gave me. Caps at 6kwH but my house could get up to 11, I just don't see the need.



The one point I will agree with you is the HIS- Ford advertised this and didn't deliver. I think if the Lightning would've sold 100k units / year they would've fixed this but they were already losing so much money I think they just abandoned it very eary on.


I actually think it's a USA problem just as much as it is a Ford problem. If you look into Batteries / Solar inverters / home back-up systems the majority of the products are Chinese. The technology "is there" but it is not "here". As in, I don't think Ford would have an easy time finding a reliable partner in this endeavor.


V2H is coming, It's just a little more nuanced than I think ford anticipated.

To be early in business is to be wrong, and regarding HIS - Ford was too early.

Sigenergy is less than $10k in parts and has V2G. So there are options through the DC port that is better than anything Ford or any other OEM offers even Tesla. I bought with the NACS cord and works with my Tesla and Lightning with adapter.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

Sigenergy is less than $10k in parts and has V2G. So there are options through the DC port that is better than anything Ford or any other OEM offers even Tesla. I bought with the NACS cord and works with my Tesla and Lightning with adapter.

Is that what the equipment is called? Or is that the brand?

 

[windydrew]

Is that what the equipment is called? Or is that the brand?

Brand.

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