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So, BEV pilgrims. After rolling nearly 50K (47,750) to be exact). I thought to share a Dec '24 through July '25 data graph. We've been a 2 BEV household (racking up a total of 110,000 miles between the ER Lightning Lariat and the SR Mach E) going on 5+ years now and I've pretty good idea of how to read %, KWH, mile range, etc. In an 88-mile daily commute of which the graph basically represents I roll at as below. I've a few longer tips up to the college so that adds about 72 miles once a month or so. A few local trips.

30 mph or less = 8 miles
~40-45 mph = 18 miles
~53-57 mph = 22 miles
TOTAL = 88 miles per day
and averaging right 80 mpge.., Crazy.

I tend to drive the winding modest hilling, rural state route at 44 miles in 56-60 minutes, so an average of around 43-45 miles an hour. My best ever was 37 minutes, and I was hauling ass. The Sheriff asked me one day why I was "going so slow" and I said, well having a stater pick me up is no fun", besides I don't have lights and a siren. This is all not true of course but I give as an example of what could happen. But I'm a good Eagle Scout and I'd never pass 5 slow cars at 90 mph because of torque multiplication. No way.

That mileage includes brutal winter storms out of the SW and headwinds at 15-20 mph as well as brisk summer NW winds which give an efficient ride home. A few sub 30 F days, a lot of 38--42F days and then the weird Pineapple Express (55 F+ and pouring rain, sheet flow water on roads). As well as summer traffic, road work, brake for trees, animals, small roadside slumps, etc.

Your KWH average is basically a weighted average of all speeds and thus isn't an immediate measure of energy. The range estimate tends to be slightly less than the real distance traveled, and summery data tends to be in whole numbers and not xx.x fractions. I've played around with other GPS map distance aps, and I think the distance tends to be off on my drive at maybe? one (1) mile under. What does this mean? not much in the big picture.

Take homes. Best mileage was bald Hanooks. I think... barely. About 35% bald across the lateral profile :lipssealed:. The Michelin's were a bit rough the first few thousand miles. Best mileage in the stratosphere for a daily driver at 2.6-2.7 because 68-78 degrees F and NO WIND (no can't drive 55). I can drive 3 over and get away with it as the local WPS Sergeant says... "Don't let me catch you at 59 and I might think about 58 if you're messing with me". I tend to play nice.

The range estimate, kWh estimate, % estimate is sensitive to change imparted by the above-mentioned speed, temp, wind, as well as tire pressure, worn tires, etc. etc. like load, towing, etc. etc. susceptible to change, a lot more than the air flow and fuel meters of ICE which are quite lousy at good energy estimates. Best of all I use typically 32-40 kWh per day and that works to an insane $2.10 to $2.56 per day to drive 88 miles RT. Our power is about $.064 per kWh.

Have fun scouring the chart, tell me if you see errors. Love the truck.

Jseis.

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Our power is about $.064 per kWh.
Seriously? That's supply and delivery?

We're in opposite country. Our gas is only $2.90 (vs your $4.50), and electric is at $0.34/kWh.
So driving EV is roughly 20% more expensive than ICE...
(And we only get about 2 mi/kWh average due to only getting 1.5 in winter)
 

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So, BEV pilgrims. After rolling nearly 50K (47,750) to be exact). I thought to share a Dec '24 through July '25 data graph. We've been a 2 BEV household (racking up a total of 110,000 miles between the ER Lightning Lariat and the SR Mach E) going on 5+ years now and I've pretty good idea of how to read %, KWH, mile range, etc. In an 88-mile daily commute of which the graph basically represents I roll at as below. I've a few longer tips up to the college so that adds about 72 miles once a month or so. A few local trips.

30 mph or less = 8 miles
~40-45 mph = 18 miles
~53-57 mph = 22 miles
TOTAL = 88 miles per day
and averaging right 80 mpge.., Crazy.

I tend to drive the winding modest hilling, rural state route at 44 miles in 56-60 minutes, so an average of around 43-45 miles an hour. My best ever was 37 minutes, and I was hauling ass. The Sheriff asked me one day why I was "going so slow" and I said, well having a stater pick me up is no fun", besides I don't have lights and a siren. This is all not true of course but I give as an example of what could happen. But I'm a good Eagle Scout and I'd never pass 5 slow cars at 90 mph because of torque multiplication. No way.

That mileage includes brutal winter storms out of the SW and headwinds at 15-20 mph as well as brisk summer NW winds which give an efficient ride home. A few sub 30 F days, a lot of 38--42F days and then the weird Pineapple Express (55 F+ and pouring rain, sheet flow water on roads). As well as summer traffic, road work, brake for trees, animals, small roadside slumps, etc.

Your KWH average is basically a weighted average of all speeds and thus isn't an immediate measure of energy. The range estimate tends to be slightly less than the real distance traveled, and summery data tends to be in whole numbers and not xx.x fractions. I've played around with other GPS map distance aps, and I think the distance tends to be off on my drive at maybe? one (1) mile under. What does this mean? not much in the big picture.

Take homes. Best mileage was bald Hanooks. I think... barely. About 35% bald across the lateral profile :lipssealed:. The Michelin's were a bit rough the first few thousand miles. Best mileage in the stratosphere for a daily driver at 2.6-2.7 because 68-78 degrees F and NO WIND (no can't drive 55). I can drive 3 over and get away with it as the local WPS Sergeant says... "Don't let me catch you at 59 and I might think about 58 if you're messing with me". I tend to play nice.

The range estimate, kWh estimate, % estimate is sensitive to change imparted by the above-mentioned speed, temp, wind, as well as tire pressure, worn tires, etc. etc. like load, towing, etc. etc. susceptible to change, a lot more than the air flow and fuel meters of ICE which are quite lousy at good energy estimates. Best of all I use typically 32-40 kWh per day and that works to an insane $2.10 to $2.56 per day to drive 88 miles RT. Our power is about $.064 per kWh.

Have fun scouring the chart, tell me if you see errors. Love the truck.

Jseis.

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This is fantastic and huge thank you! Very much appreciate you taking the time to share with this forum
 
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Yep, redunkelous. The Bonneville Power Administration regulates the operation of 2+ dozen hydroelectric dams on the Columbia River System including through an agreement (currently in limbo) that also two massive reservoirs in Canada!

Thus gas was 4.99 a few weeks ago, then dropped to 4:49. Crazy cheap power and decent “mileage”. charging at home really pays so to speak.
 

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As a cost analyst, I could totally see myself doing something exactly like this in time.

I'm only 3 weeks into ownership, so I am still in the early stages of learning.

My big recent discovery was that the AC and ventilated seat really do effect efficiency. It's been 100 degrees lately here in Florida, with about 4 million percent humidity. As such, when I was in the truck, it would be blasting the Max AC + Max Seat Vent, and on my 100 mile runs 3x per month, I was seeing abysmal efficiency (1.5-1.6). Even around town (gym, home depot, Wally) I would only get 1.8-1.9.

It was overcast a few days back as a storm had just passed thru. As I ran some errands, I cut the AC from Max to 72, the AC fan down to 50% (setting 3 of 6), and the seat vent to the middle setting. Suddenly I was in a whole new world of efficiency! I was seeing 2.4-2.6 on my various short hops between different errand locations.

So I ran an experiment on Sunday and did a 70 mile loop, through and around my city... a variety of stop & go, 35-45 mph streets, and some 50-60mph state roads. Sure enough... 2.4 kwh avg. I was shocked at how much of a difference just setting the AC more reasonably made. I've been doing all the other stuff (45 psi tires, onboard power turned off, sport mode), so that part was consistent. It was the AC and cutting the ventilated seat to the middle setting as well that made the difference. Color me surprised.
 

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I see you got new tires at 40k miles. This is a picture of my tires at 44k miles. These are Goodyear’s. Makes no sense, why some tires wear so much better than others.
Well… I know why MY tires will wear out fast. 😉

As for calculus of the OP, I am in WA and am surprised more people (who could charge at home) haven’t given EVs a shot. Fuel here is $4.50 at the cheap pumps and electricity at my house is $0.07/kw. A $70 fillup is now <$7, AND I don’t have to do typical ICE maintenance.
 

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Seriously? That's supply and delivery?

We're in opposite country. Our gas is only $2.90 (vs your $4.50), and electric is at $0.34/kWh.
So driving EV is roughly 20% more expensive than ICE...
(And we only get about 2 mi/kWh average due to only getting 1.5 in winter)
F-150 5-L V8 averages 20mpg = for 88 miles at your $2.90/gal is $12.76 per trip,
Using the average of 1.75 mi/kwh for conbined summer/winter and your local 34-cents per kWh you would be $17.09 per trip in the Lightning.

Shows just how different the local cost of each 'fuel' affects travel.

In my neck of the woods, our gas is like $4.50 (USD/USG) but overnight electric is only 2-cents (2.8 cents CAN$/kWh)
With these rates the 88 mile daily trip would look like this:
ICE 20mpg and $4.50/gal = $19.80 / trip
Lightning 1.75mi/kWh and 2.0 Cents/kWh = $1.00 / trip !!

Tells you, if you don't have solar, or a low ToU utility rate, you better check the math.
 

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As a previous F-150 owner who frequently got into work site and parking lot discussions with other 150 owners, I never met anyone who said they were averaging 20 mpg with a V8. I loved my truck, and it had the indestructible old cast iron V8 from the first Raptor (it was just the rest of the "Ford stuff" that kept needing repaired/replaced). My 6.2L was getting an avg of 11.5 mpg.

The 2 guys at work with 5.0 L's told me they got 15 to 16, and much worse after they lifted it or put off road tires on it.

The 4 guys I talked to in recent times who had the EcoBoost told me they got about 18. Again, worse if they lifted it or swapped out the street tires.

The guy who got the Hybrid F-150 said he was averaging 22 with mixed driving after 8 months. He paid $5K more for his 23 XLT Hybrid than I did for my 22 Lariat Lighting ER.

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As a previous F-150 owner who frequently got into work site and parking lot discussions with other 150 owners, I never met anyone who said they were averaging 20 mpg with a V8. I loved my truck, and it had the indestructible old cast iron V8 from the first Raptor (it was just the rest of the "Ford stuff" that kept needing repaired/replaced). My 6.2L was getting an avg of 11.5 mpg.

The 2 guys at work with 5.0 L's told me they got 15 to 16, and much worse after they lifted it or put off road tires on it.

The 4 guys I talked to in recent times who had the EcoBoost told me they got about 18. Again, worse if they lifted it or swapped out the street tires.

The guy who got the Hybrid F-150 said he was averaging 22 with mixed driving after 8 months. He paid $5K more for his 23 XLT Hybrid than I did for my 22 Lariat Lighting ER.

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I looked up the mileage on line, figured give them the benefit of the doubt. My last truck before the Lightning was 2500 Ram and i was lucky to get 16MPG (18L/100km)

If we redo the math using 16mpg
88 miles /16 = 5.5 USG
at $2.90/gallon this would be $16/trip. only a dollar less than the Lightning at the poster's local utility rate.
I would say the oil changes and other ICE things (exhaust work, cooling system, trani, transfer case) would eat up that other dollar a day pretty quickly...but thats my experience.

Low cost electric and high cost gasoline make an EV a super option, for daily driving, as long as you have a place to charge.
 
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F-150 5-L V8 averages 20mpg = for 88 miles at your $2.90/gal is $12.76 per trip,
Using the average of 1.75 mi/kwh for conbined summer/winter and your local 34-cents per kWh you would be $17.09 per trip in the Lightning.

Shows just how different the local cost of each 'fuel' affects travel.

In my neck of the woods, our gas is like $4.50 (USD/USG) but overnight electric is only 2-cents (2.8 cents CAN$/kWh)
With these rates the 88 mile daily trip would look like this:
ICE 20mpg and $4.50/gal = $19.80 / trip
Lightning 1.75mi/kWh and 2.0 Cents/kWh = $1.00 / trip !!

Tells you, if you don't have solar, or a low ToU utility rate, you better check the math.
We are lucky we are only paying .064/kWh… I’d love it to be 50% less 😂!
I see you got new tires at 40k miles. This is a picture of my tires at 44k miles. These are Goodyear’s. Makes no sense, why some tires wear so much better than others.

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hard cornering. I’ve one 7 miles section with 36 curves. If I take most of those at 49-51… well the tires squeal. Rounded those shoulders in 15K miles 😤😱😫dove it like a baybaby for the next 25 K but dang near wrapped it into tree on a frozen bridge deck. Off with the Hanooks head and on with Michelins!
 

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Silverado got a 1000+ miles on a charge (~4.7 mi/KWh). They discuss how here:

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