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I see tons of threads and comments about these tires but they are all the EV version. I have a chance to get just standard LT version of these tires and am wondering if anyone has them?

Range difference or anything special i should be concerned about vs the EV version or anything else?
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You are looking at a 10% reduction in range for the aggressive tread and probably a bit more for the added weight. The Open Country is an amazing tire, but its really loud with road noise (I had 35" on my jeep) and its a higher rolling resistance- It will be amazing for snow and Ice and it will look cool, but its going to cost you in range
 

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I'm watching this as I am thinking about the same tire. I am finding Ejunge's comment about it being loud as interesting as there have been several comments in other threads stating the opposite.

In my case I drive up crappy roads to mountaintop radio sites - hence the desire for a fairly serious truck tire. It is exceedingly seldom that I get anywhere near ice or snow.
 
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I have them on my truck in 10 ply 285/75R17. They do hit efficiency pretty bad. I just did a road trip in about 40 degree weather and averaged 1.6mi/kwh at 80-85 mph over about 500 miles. In the summer I'm pretty happy to hit 1.8-2.0mi/kwh.


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I have them on my truck in 10 ply 285/75R17. They do hit efficiency pretty bad. I just did a road trip in about 40 degree weather and averaged 1.6mi/kwh at 80-85 mph over about 500 miles. In the summer I'm pretty happy to hit 1.8-2.0mi/kwh.


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I'm going down from my stock 20s to 18s with this tire...so i'll gain a little range going down in size, lose a little going to this tire...

but i thought 17s didn't fit the truck because of the brakes??
 

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I'm going down from my stock 20s to 18s with this tire...so i'll gain a little range going down in size, lose a little going to this tire...

but i thought 17s didn't fit the truck because of the brakes??
Common misconception. Some 17s will fit, all depends on the barrel design and the offset of the wheels. Max tow vs non max tow has no effect on the brake size on Lightnings too despite what some people claim. It'll be a very tight fit as well. I ended up buying two different sets of wheels and test fitting them before I got some that worked. I think I have maybe a mm of clearance on the calipers and if the tire shop doesn't place the weights right they'll hit the calipers.

I highly recommend just sticking with 18s but I know some people like me don't take no for an answer lol
 

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Not sure how the standard version compares to the EV version but I can tell you that with the LT EV version my miles/kwh hour dropped from 2.4 to 2.3 with my normal daily driving.
 
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Not sure how the standard version compares to the EV version but I can tell you that with the LT EV version my miles/kwh hour dropped from 2.4 to 2.3 with my normal daily driving.
I'd be fine with that. I bought it expecting around 2.3-2.4 anyway. Do you have 18s?
 

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I'm watching this as I am thinking about the same tire. I am finding Ejunge's comment about it being load as interesting as there have been several comments in other threads stating the opposite.

In my case I drive up crappy roads to mountaintop radio sites - hence the desire for a fairly serious truck tire. It is exceedingly seldom that I get anywhere near ice or snow.
I re- read that trying to figure out "being load"- ah LOUD sorry...
I was also in t aJeep which was the loudest vehicle that I have ever owned, and it was on a Wider stance and 35" tires and it was the Open Country M/T- and yes it was loud-

going through the Toyo website, I imagine the A/T III EV is a great tire. it looks like the A/T IIIEv is rated the same as the A/T III but with better fuel efficiency.

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I re- read that trying to figure out "being load"- ah LOUD sorry...
I was also in t aJeep which was the loudest vehicle that I have ever owned, and it was on a Wider stance and 35" tires and it was the Open Country M/T- and yes it was loud-
Correct, I mis-typed. Should have been loud - and I edited my original post...
Reality is that most off road tires are louder - kinda the way it works...
 

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Ill be honest, they are not loud at all. Now I will say that they are louder than the stock HT tires that came on the truck but when i am on the highway you hardly notice them.
 

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Ill be honest, they are not loud at all. Now I will say that they are louder than the stock HT tires that came on the truck but when i am on the highway you hardly notice them.
Thanks for that update.
 

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17s will "fit" but the clearance to the brakes is too small. It is not recommended.
Yes that’s why I wrote the rest of what was in my comment lol.
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