chl
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- First Name
- CHRIS
- Joined
- Dec 16, 2022
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- Location
- alexandria virginia
- Vehicles
- 2023 F-150 LIGHTNING, 2012 Nissan Leaf, 2015 Toyota Prius, 2000 HD 883 Sportster
- Occupation
- Patent Atty / Electrical Engineer
I got a 2023 Pro with 9.6kW PPOB and tow packages in Jan 2024 with tax credit up front.
My As Built numbers agree with what was noted above - 00FB present.
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I was looking for a Pro throughout 2023 with 9.6kW PPOB so I could have a quiet generator through a transfer switch to my home and the Max Tow for the extra cooling of battery etc., at a minimum.
It took a while to find one nearby and reasonably priced.
Then in late 2023, boom, all of a sudden there were plenty to choose from.
I waited until Jan 2024 to buy one so I could get the $7500 tax credit up front.
I did not opt for an ER battery - for one thing a Pro with the ER was hard to find, and for another didn't want to sell them to individuals only fleet customers. But for my purposes I did not need the extra 80 miles estimate of range for the extra $7k or so.
I do wonder about the battery defects popping up seemingly randomly in Lightnings.
Never had any issues with my 2012 Nissan Leaf battery (but 24kWh=small).
I never "stress" my two EV battery vehicles.
I try to never go beyond 80% charge or below 30%, I keep them between 60% and 80% as much as possible.
If not using for an extended period, I store them at 40%-50% SOC (and for the health of the 12v battery, keep it on a trickle charger when EV is not in use).
I have never DC fast charged them and never plan to.
I keep them warm in winter, cool in summer.
The Leaf battery is air cooled but it is in a garage when not in use - and I live in a relatively temperate climate so extreme heat or cold is rare here.
I avoid "deep depth" of discharge - over 50% of capacity - because that has been found to be a big factor in battery health in recent studies.
I keep the Lightning plugged in almost all the time it is not in use.
Let the battery cool before recharging.
OTA updates enabled.
In general, I avoid stressing the battery every way possible based on current understanding of what is good and not so good for EV batteries with the LI battery tech we currently have.
Obviously those things above will not fit everyone's use needs.
No criticism intended if they don't.
Having an 8 year 100kmi warranty on the Electric Vehicle Components (esp. battery) is a good thing no matter how you use the truck.
From my sticker:
WARRANTY
3YR/36,000 BUMPER / BUMPER
5YR/60,000 POWERTRAIN
5YR/60,000 ROADSIDE ASSIST
5YR/60,000 SAFETY RESTRAINT SYS
8YR/100,000 ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMPONENTS
I believe Ford will pass on the warranty that remains to a buyer of a used vehicle from a Ford authorized seller, but I'd get that in writing anyway.
Also check the VIN for any updates and recalls to be sure they have been installed/repaired.
Check whether the truck had been a buy back - I believe most states require that be disclosed - I have seen a post or two where that wasn't disclosed and troubles arose.
Avoid the sun roof - seem to be prone to leaking.
Watch out for the rear light bar issues that have been reported.
Probably left out some things to watch out for with a used Lightning - peruse the forums for other possible issues.
My As Built numbers agree with what was noted above - 00FB present.
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I was looking for a Pro throughout 2023 with 9.6kW PPOB so I could have a quiet generator through a transfer switch to my home and the Max Tow for the extra cooling of battery etc., at a minimum.
It took a while to find one nearby and reasonably priced.
Then in late 2023, boom, all of a sudden there were plenty to choose from.
I waited until Jan 2024 to buy one so I could get the $7500 tax credit up front.
I did not opt for an ER battery - for one thing a Pro with the ER was hard to find, and for another didn't want to sell them to individuals only fleet customers. But for my purposes I did not need the extra 80 miles estimate of range for the extra $7k or so.
I do wonder about the battery defects popping up seemingly randomly in Lightnings.
Never had any issues with my 2012 Nissan Leaf battery (but 24kWh=small).
I never "stress" my two EV battery vehicles.
I try to never go beyond 80% charge or below 30%, I keep them between 60% and 80% as much as possible.
If not using for an extended period, I store them at 40%-50% SOC (and for the health of the 12v battery, keep it on a trickle charger when EV is not in use).
I have never DC fast charged them and never plan to.
I keep them warm in winter, cool in summer.
The Leaf battery is air cooled but it is in a garage when not in use - and I live in a relatively temperate climate so extreme heat or cold is rare here.
I avoid "deep depth" of discharge - over 50% of capacity - because that has been found to be a big factor in battery health in recent studies.
I keep the Lightning plugged in almost all the time it is not in use.
Let the battery cool before recharging.
OTA updates enabled.
In general, I avoid stressing the battery every way possible based on current understanding of what is good and not so good for EV batteries with the LI battery tech we currently have.
Obviously those things above will not fit everyone's use needs.
No criticism intended if they don't.
Having an 8 year 100kmi warranty on the Electric Vehicle Components (esp. battery) is a good thing no matter how you use the truck.
From my sticker:
WARRANTY
3YR/36,000 BUMPER / BUMPER
5YR/60,000 POWERTRAIN
5YR/60,000 ROADSIDE ASSIST
5YR/60,000 SAFETY RESTRAINT SYS
8YR/100,000 ELECTRIC VEHICLE COMPONENTS
I believe Ford will pass on the warranty that remains to a buyer of a used vehicle from a Ford authorized seller, but I'd get that in writing anyway.
Also check the VIN for any updates and recalls to be sure they have been installed/repaired.
Check whether the truck had been a buy back - I believe most states require that be disclosed - I have seen a post or two where that wasn't disclosed and troubles arose.
Avoid the sun roof - seem to be prone to leaking.
Watch out for the rear light bar issues that have been reported.
Probably left out some things to watch out for with a used Lightning - peruse the forums for other possible issues.
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