Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

[Pitbull2o08]

They will NEVER let Chinese EVs into the US market.

They're allowed now, you just have to pay the tariff. I've seen them in LA and Farley has one.

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[OldDominionB]

I was a first night deposit guy. Then the abominable wait and bait and switch.
No, I only wanted XLT-level options, not Lariat/Pt!
In a way, I am surprised that it took them this long to announce the termination.
Been a Ford guy since my ‘86 F150. I forgave them for my ‘12 3.5L intercooler issues but the bait and switch was a bridge too far.

 

[drewguitar]

Legacy automakers are a joke...Not a surprise as Ford and the stealerships want that maintenance money, which EREV will give them. This solidifies the fact that I will not be remotely interested in a Ford for our next car. I am never going back to gas, such an antiquated technology. No thanks.

Exactly. I got a '24, so plenty of life and lots can change over the next 5 to 10 years. But when it's time to look for a new vehicle, I'm sticking with EV. Last 3 cars have been Fords, next one won't be if there's not a good EV option. No more oil changes for me (among other things).

 

[Pitbull2o08]

It's been a short seven weeks @Ford Motor Company
"And that article is AI unfactual slop (unlike me)."
I still like ya Brian, not AI

@Ford Motor Company So did you know back then or was it the AI, knower of all things, that nailed it?

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Hi F-150 Lightning owners,

I’m coming to you today with an update on our product roadmap. There has been a lot of speculation recently and we just went live with some news. So, I want to give you the facts straight from Ford, explain what is changing, and more importantly, why.

With the F-150 Lightning, we proved an electric truck could be a hit, and it has remained the best-selling electric pickup. Let’s be real about what we’ve learned from you, the owners, and the market over the last few years. You love the electric performance, smoothness, and the tech, but for those that drive long distances, take frequent trips or tow heavy loads across state lines often, an F-150 Lightning might not be the truck for them. And we want it to be.

We took a bet, produced an amazing product that so many people love, and now we’re making adjustments in response to evolving market realities, consumer preferences, and the regulatory environment. No one could have predicted how the EV landscape would change in the U.S., which has impacted the industry.
That is why our next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability. That is a game-changer for our customers. Like the current F-150 Lightning, the next-gen version will also offer exportable electricity that can power everything from work sites to camp sites to homes during a power outage.

For those who aren’t familiar with EREVs, this isn't a traditional plug-in hybrid. This is an electric vehicle with an on-board generator. It’s designed to give you the electric capability you enjoy around town, but with the range and towing confidence of a gas truck when you’re hauling a boat or camper. It will be assembled right here in Dearborn at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center.

What this means for the current generation F-150 Lightning and “T3” truck​

Production of the current generation of F-150 Lightning will end this year, and we have also made the decision to no longer produce the next-generation full-size electric truck, also known as “T3”. For those that still wish to purchase a MY25 F-150 Lightning, we have good inventory and interested customers can purchase from dealer stock.

If you have an order in, or were waiting on one, please contact your dealer immediately to see if your vehicle will be built or if they can match you to an existing stock unit.

As for existing Lightning customers who might be coming off lease or looking or a new Lightning, we are looking at the following:

• Assist early adopters to purchase or lease a new 25MY Lightning
• Offering extensions to customers who wish to extend their leases beyond the original term
• Providing dealer support to help match customer with available inventory

What about support for my current F-150 Lightning?​

I know reading "production is ending" can be nerve-wracking for current owners. I want to be clear: We are committed to ensuring ongoing support of your vehicle’s software updates, quality and experience. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. The team is not walking away from the current F-150 Lightning, and I’m not going anywhere.

The Ford Universal EV Platform​

While we shift F-150 Lightning to EREV, we are absolutely maintaining our plans and investment in the next generation of affordable EVs. The new Universal EV (UEV) platform is now more important than ever for Ford. UEV platform development is well underway. This flexible architecture will underpin a new family of smaller, more affordable, and cost-efficient vehicles—starting with a midsize pickup in 2027.

There is no impact to Mustang Mach-E. Mustang Mach-E is a great success story and is now available in almost 60 markets across the globe. It continues to be a standout electric SUV and plays an important role in the portfolio.

Other News: Battery Technology​

We are also making moves to make our business more sustainable. We are repurposing our Kentucky battery plant to build large-scale battery storage systems (for grid and industrial use), and our Michigan plant will be focusing on prismatic LFP cells. The same Michigan plant will be ramping up production in 2026 to power the new midsize electric truck built on our new Universal EV Platform.

Ford has been in manufacturing for over a century. We understand power management, thermal systems, safety engineering, and large-scale manufacturing. Our licensed LFP prismatic technology is proven, and our brand represents long-term accountability critical for 20+ year infrastructure investments.

I know this is a lot of news, and for the BEV purists, this might be tough to hear. We have a huge opportunity to get more people driving electric – whether that be plug-in hybrid, extended-range electric or pure electric vehicles and our plans set us up to succeed in this mission.

You can read the press release on this news here. I’ll be in the comments a later tonight to answer what I can.

Brian from Ford

I've owned a bunch of Fords, but Ford lost me in the early 2000s with their product line. The Lightning was THE truck that brought me back, and THE truck that I used to convinced multiple others to become a Ford family.

I know, it's only a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme.

I recently sold mine due to the recent IIHS crash test, and unfortunately based on this news it doesn't seem as if I'll be coming back to Ford. I tow, I road trip, I plow, I haul things in the bed, I haul family in the cab; and as many of the folks I talk to state..."So...you do truck stuff?" "Yea, I use my truck as a truck". It hasn't been perfect, but man do you guys know how to build a truck and a phenomenal electric truck.

That said; while an EREV intrigues me, I wouldn't be in the market for one. For me, the added complexity, the potential sacrifice of the frunk, having to maintain 2 systems, just doesn't seem worth it when there are full sized BEVs as an option. I have never owned a GM product, but it seems that will be my only remaining option. (For now..)

I know I'm just one when hundreds of thousands of others will buy an EREV, but felt strongly enough about it that I figured I'd post it.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

Ok so answer this. Why did ev sales plummet? Answer because the tax credit ended. So what does that tell you? It means that good or bad many Americans don’t want an ev. The average ev costs in many cases thousands more than a comparable ice vehicle. You say evs are “taking off” in other countries. You realize that many of those countries have subsidies like we used to. I wonder if they stopped that would their sales drop? You also have to keep in mind that the culture in other countries is quite different than ours. They tend to drive less miles and have smaller cars. Everyone here wants an suv or a truck. Different strokes.
My opinion is that I don’t think the government should be artificially creating the market.

The gov literally has a tax code that creates markets. that's what the gov does. It incentivizes people to do what they want them to do.

 

[Jim Lewis]

Sad to hear the news. Too bad Americans are not more EV-oriented. If Ford uses this as an excuse to also write off fixing the Home Integration System, I will never buy another Ford, and I'll be sure to let friends and neighbors know about Ford's unethical and immoral behavior.

 

[whynotdairy]

I would totally get an F150 EREV if my lightning resale value wasn't so bad.

 

[Rayden]

I've owned a 76 Ford F100, a 99 Dodge Ram, and a 2011 GMC Sierra. Of those trucks, this 23 Lightning is the best and also my first EV. I typically keep my vehicles for about 12 years or so. I just got this 23 in July, so if I hold to that pattern, I'll be looking in 2035. I expect that lots of things will have changed by then, but if @Ford Motor Company is still on this footing, someone else will get my money.

 

[Shmoe]

Well, what’s the fair value of a vehicle no longer made on a power train no longer offered?

If the answer is little to nothing, hopefully you can see why that wouldn’t be ideal.

And a negotiation ensues

 

[handy1bob]

I would like to see an higher trade in on my Lightning value so If we wanted to go to an EREV we can be at the front of the line.

 

[Rayden]

And also...am I the only one who doesn't buy vehicles based on what I think their value might be X number of years down the road? Automobiles are one of the WORST investments a person can make, IMHO.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

if i'm not mistaken, i believe this was the plan all along. I'm not sure why people expected a "next-gen" lightning. As a day 1 reservation holder, when Farley announced T3, he specifically stated, there will be no new F150 Lightning. Its just a shame we won't get T3 because it sounded epic.

I am ok with the $30k mid size skateboard truck and/or Ranger, Bronco, Maverick BEV or I'll go Slate. But i won't buy a EREV and get the worst of both worlds.

 

[FloridaMan655321]

I've owned a 76 Ford F100, a 99 Dodge Ram, and a 2011 GMC Sierra.

Pending on the engine options with those years, you may have had some really reliable trucks.

 

[Deleted member 21405]

And also...am I the only one who doesn't buy vehicles based on what I think their value might be X number of years down the road? Automobiles are one of the WORST investments a person can make, IMHO.

Exactly. If you need future value peace of mind, lease.

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