1st Time Poster - If you could order over what would you do different?

[LifeAsDane]

Hey Ford fam.
So just a quick sidenote, I placed my reservation way back in Jun 21 and just got the option to order a few weeks back. Monday 4/24 being my last day. Well I placed the order Thursday for an XLT 311a with max tow/ladder step and thats it. Out the door will be $73k pre ev tax credit.

Now Im considering buying a 2022 Lariat with 3k miles from dealer being sold new that will have me out the door at 76k and that includes shipping it to FL.

The question and my thoughts...

I actually like the screen better with manual climate controls. But I do like some of the other lariat standard features. Just that damn screen seems to be a future nightmare of problems, brightness at night and just overkill. AND the fact that a digital device has the menu delays ive seen in videos is pretty disgusting to see in this day in age. Making devices like an ipad "faster or snappier" never happens. Original videos before people ever received had the screen snappier but doesnt seem to be anymore.

Do yall feel the max tow for florida heat is a necessity for cooling (no intent to actually tow, just hot as hell in the summer)?
Do you think for a 3k price difference you'd sacrifice the screen dislike for the other multiple additions the lariat gets? I was also a bigger fan of 18" wheels but for this color combo im fine with the 20's.

A bit of a rant as I make the biggest auto purchase of my life. Thanks for commenting and dealing with my fat finger typos.

WWJD? Lol

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[mr.Magoo]

I don't think I'd do anything different (22 Lariat ER) except maybe the color (AM Blue), it's a cool color when the truck is clean and the sun is shining - but - that combo haven't happened very often (here in MI) so far.

If my choice was a 22 lariat vs. a 23 XLT and the cost is about the same, I'd pick the lariat.
My only concern is if the 22 have been a demo vehicle and people have been hooning it so I would not buy it unseen (since you mention shipping).

The only benefit of a 23 (imho) is that you can get the dirt cheap powersteps, that option was pulled on the 22's.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

Here's some thoughts from someone who didn't just IF it...I actually did it

My original order was a 2022 Pro SR w/Max Tow, Pro Power. $44k MSRP. After 6 months of ownership I sold it.

Then two months ago I, purchased a 2022 Lariat ER w/Max Tow for $81k MSRP and like you are considering; got it delivered to my doorstep from hundreds of miles away. It was a flawless experience and actually better than buying the Pro locally.

I had an opportunity to buy a Platinum for $86k but in person I preferred the interior of the Laiat much more than the Platinum, despite liking the massaging seats.

I actually like the screen better with manual climate controls. But I do like some of the other lariat standard features. Just that damn screen seems to be a future nightmare of problems, brightness at night and just overkill. AND the fact that a digital device has the menu delays ive seen in videos is pretty disgusting to see in this day in age. Making devices like an ipad "faster or snappier" never happens. Original videos before people ever received had the screen snappier but doesnt seem to be anymore.

I will confirm that the screen makes a difference in the ownership experience. The larger vertical screen hasn't been a problem with brightness, that aspect hasn't been much different, but it is overkill and completely unnecessary. In my opinion, it actually hurts the ownership experience. I did and still do prefer the horizontal screen. It's easier and quicker to use. I have never been frustrated by it, I can't say the same of my vertical screen.

Do yall feel the max tow for florida heat is a necessity for cooling (no intent to actually tow, just hot as hell in the summer)?

I think it just depends if you're towing, what you're towing, and how long you're towing it for. I don't think it's necessary but having owned EV for almost a decade thermals have typically been a factor, especially when charging. So personally I opted for the Max Tow for the extra cooling loop as a just in case.

Do you think for a 3k price difference you'd sacrifice the screen dislike for the other multiple additions the lariat gets?

My price difference was much bigger and I sacrificed it anyway to buy a Lariat ER so I think that answers that...but...what IF?

IF I could do it over from the FIRST time. I'd add every option to my Pro and call it a day, but this is largely influenced by the price at the time.

IF I could do my second time over, I'd make exactly the same decision.

I rarely interact with my screen. Partly because I don't want to. Partly because I use CarPlay and that's been enough. I definitely don't like the vertical screen, but it doesn't make me regret buying the truck, just reminds me I have a preference for the horizontal screen.

IF I could do it a THIRD time. What would I do?

In the land of theoretical I would buy an XLT ER, fully loaded. It gives me all the features (sans BlueCruise) anything I don't have is upgradeable (wheels, leather, etc) and I still get the horizontal screen and I think that would come out to $75k. The screen has that much of an impact and the truck would be lighter and have higher payload.

Why the difference in a 3rd time vs a redo? Well the grass might be greener. If I was doing it a 3rd time, that means I already know what a Lariat is like and made the decision that it wasn't right for me.

The reality is I'm VERY happy with my Lariat ER w/ Max Tow. I love the interior (IMO Lariat > Pro > Platinum) and more than once have hopped in and thought about it and I like and use BlueCruise a lot more than I thought I would.

Having the comparison, I haven't had anything in the truck that made me wish I went a different direction. The times it pops up, it's more of a - this is a lot easier in the other screen - rather than a - OMFG this screen is junk I need to rip this out and get the horizontal screen - if that makes sense.

I'm sure this is clear as mud for ya...

 

[Henry Ford]

I bought a '22 Platinum demo and wouldn't do anything different. It has every feature, no deletes, and still qualified for the full tax break which means it cost less than a lesser equipped '23 Lariat so I'm happy with the deal. Mine came with an extended 4 year/42,000 mile warranty. I believe this is standard on demos.

If I were you I'd jump at the '22 Lariat, but I like the 20" wheels enough that I put them on my Platinum and I just disagree about the screen.

It's plenty "snappy," software fixed the UI deficiencies, and it's so big it changes the way you drive. For instance, the map is so big you can use it for your own detours, which I use to navigate around traffic when taking my kids back and forth to school. Also, the cameras make driving giant truck in town and tight parking lots as easy as driving a much smaller car.

I've never understood the desire for more HVAC buttons. If you are too warm turn the temperature down, if you are too cold turn the temperature up. Mine ranges from 64° to 74° and is always in auto mode. What's the point of unused buttons?

Do what you want, it's your money. I'm just presenting the case for the Lariat based on my experience.

 

[LifeAsDane]

Here's some thoughts from someone who didn't just IF it...I actually did it

My original order was a 2022 Pro SR w/Max Tow, Pro Power. $44k MSRP. After 6 months of ownership I sold it.

Then two months ago I, purchased a 2022 Lariat ER w/Max Tow for $81k MSRP and like you are considering; got it delivered to my doorstep from hundreds of miles away. It was a flawless experience and actually better than buying the Pro locally.

I had an opportunity to buy a Platinum for $86k but in person I preferred the interior of the Laiat much more than the Platinum, despite liking the massaging seats.



I will confirm that the screen makes a difference in the ownership experience. The larger vertical screen hasn't been a problem with brightness, that aspect hasn't been much different, but it is overkill and completely unnecessary. In my opinion, it actually hurts the ownership experience. I did and still do prefer the horizontal screen. It's easier and quicker to use. I have never been frustrated by it, I can't say the same of my vertical screen.



I think it just depends if you're towing, what you're towing, and how long you're towing it for. I don't think it's necessary but having owned EV for almost a decade thermals have typically been a factor, especially when charging. So personally I opted for the Max Tow for the extra cooling loop as a just in case.



My price difference was much bigger and I sacrificed it anyway to buy a Lariat ER so I think that answers that...but...what IF?

IF I could do it over from the FIRST time. I'd add every option to my Pro and call it a day, but this is largely influenced by the price at the time.

IF I could do my second time over, I'd make exactly the same decision.

I rarely interact with my screen. Partly because I don't want to. Partly because I use CarPlay and that's been enough. I definitely don't like the vertical screen, but it doesn't make me regret buying the truck, just reminds me I have a preference for the horizontal screen.

IF I could do it a THIRD time. What would I do?

In the land of theoretical I would buy an XLT ER, fully loaded. It gives me all the features (sans BlueCruise) anything I don't have is upgradeable (wheels, leather, etc) and I still get the horizontal screen and I think that would come out to $75k. The screen has that much of an impact and the truck would be lighter and have higher payload.

Why the difference in a 3rd time vs a redo? Well the grass might be greener. If I was doing it a 3rd time, that means I already know what a Lariat is like and made the decision that it wasn't right for me.

The reality is I'm VERY happy with my Lariat ER w/ Max Tow. I love the interior (IMO Lariat > Pro > Platinum) and more than once have hopped in and thought about it and I like and use BlueCruise a lot more than I thought I would.

Having the comparison, I haven't had anything in the truck that made me wish I went a different direction. The times it pops up, it's more of a - this is a lot easier in the other screen - rather than a - OMFG this screen is junk I need to rip this out and get the horizontal screen - if that makes sense.

I'm sure this is clear as mud for ya...

I appreciate muddling through your mud and sounds like we are thinking the same. BTW the buildout out of the 23' XLT w/ ER automatically gives you the vertical screen now so there isnt too much I can do to the xlt besides add max tow, pro power (needed with max tow) and accessory related upgrades, adding ER is not a choice as Im taking advantage of ev credit (under 80k) and section 179 as a business owner.
Thanks for your thoughts.

@henryford appreciate your thoughts on the screen. Exactly what I wanted to hear, proponents from both sides.

 

[Pioneer74]

Since my only option was to order an ER Lariat, the only thing I would do different would be the color. I wish I would have selected Rapid Red. But it would have been the 4th red vehicle in a row and my family said I was becoming boring. Every time I see a red truck I regret not getting it.

But I truly wish I could have ordered the truck I really wanted. ER Lariat, no moonroof, 12 inch screen, 18" wheels and power running boards. Rapid Red, of course.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

I appreciate muddling through your mud and sounds like we are thinking the same. BTW the buildout out of the 23' XLT w/ ER automatically gives you the vertical screen now so there isnt too much I can do to the xlt besides add max tow, pro power (needed with max tow) and accessory related upgrades, adding ER is not a choice as Im taking advantage of ev credit (under 80k) and section 179 as a business owner.
Thanks for your thoughts.

@henryford appreciate your thoughts on the screen. Exactly what I wanted to hear, proponents from both sides.

I think it's on the commercial side that you can find a sprinkling of XLT ERs with the horizontal screens that were ordered as commercial trucks. They're extremely rare and take a lot of time to sift through. I found maybe 2-3 nationwide when I was looking. I likely would've ended up that way except they were rarely loaded (Pro Power + Max Tow + Tow Tech) which makes sense and I wanted Tow Tech (in hindsight, I only use the 360 cameras)

 

[detansinn]

Only thing that I would have changed would be to get my reservation earlier. I hesitated instead of doing it the moment the reservations opened.

Had I gotten in earlier, I would have had a shot at the lower MSRP without the involuntary scales and heated steering wheel deletes.

I love my Lariat ER in Rapid Red metallic. Aside from the color, the only option that I selected was the all season tires.

 

[thedadlegend]

I cancelled my 23 order and picked up my 22 dealer demo because it was 10k cheaper and had no deletes. Wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

 

[GDN]

It's hard for me to compare the two trucks you note without building them, I believe they are both SR, so I'm not sure in that case the Lariat has a lot more options. Most of the Lariat options that really set it apart come in the $10K package with the ER battery.

So noting the Lariat ER - that is what I bought (2022 model back in July of last year) and it is exactly what I would buy again. Once you get into that $70K range - the extra $10K for the ER range, the moon roof, and the options that come with it make is a very nice buy.

As far as your concern over the screen size etc on the Lariat - it makes NO difference. It is the very same computer running inside the dash. It will work the same for either screen size. Ford did make one update that made some of the controls on the bigger screen easier to get to without having the physical buttons. I don't regret having this bigger screen at all.

Confirm for us if both trucks you speak of are SR. If that Lariat happened to be an ER then there is no way hands down you go for the older Lariat, but truly I think that is your best move anyway. Both qualify for the $7500 since you note the Lariat is selling as new (not previously titled.)

 

[Minh]

Nothing, at about 35k after fed/NJ incentive for pro with tow tech package, spray in Bedliner and tailgate step It’s a steal.

 

[Gewalt]

I have a no-option Pro and at first I wanted tow tech due to not being used to the size of the thing but after driving for a few weeks I'm glad to have passed. My other, much smaller, EVs both have birds eye and 3D views and I hardly use them. The basic rear view camera is plenty. The options just add cost and weight in my book, but others may appreciate them more than I do.

 

[LifeAsDane]

It's hard for me to compare the two trucks you note without building them, I believe they are both SR, so I'm not sure in that case the Lariat has a lot more options. Most of the Lariat options that really set it apart come in the $10K package with the ER battery.

So noting the Lariat ER - that is what I bought (2022 model back in July of last year) and it is exactly what I would buy again. Once you get into that $70K range - the extra $10K for the ER range, the moon roof, and the options that come with it make is a very nice buy.

As far as your concern over the screen size etc on the Lariat - it makes NO difference. It is the very same computer running inside the dash. It will work the same for either screen size. Ford did make one update that made some of the controls on the bigger screen easier to get to without having the physical buttons. I don't regret having this bigger screen at all.

Confirm for us if both trucks you speak of are SR. If that Lariat happened to be an ER then there is no way hands down you go for the older Lariat, but truly I think that is your best move anyway. Both qualify for the $7500 since you note the Lariat is selling as new (not previously titled.)

Hey GDN,

Thanks for the reply. So I DID decide to pull the trigger on the Lariat and Yes they are SR.
Regarding the extra options on the Lariat it's actually quite a list once I broke it down.

Power Tailgate w/ Step (XLT tailgate is manual and step is additional)

ProPower 9.6-kW Onboard (XLT has the 2.4-kW)

Large Screen with Driver assist features (XLT 12" screen)

10way power seats (XLT is 8way)

heat/cool seats (XLT is only Heated)

Leather Seats (XLT Cloth)

20" Wheels (XLT 18")

Back Sliding Window

Middle Backseat Armrest

Folding Side Mirrors

8 Speaker B&O

I think that's it. I'm not sure about the phone as a key feature.

 

[GDN]

Those are some nice upgrades. I think you'll be happy with this decision long term.

 

[FordLightningMan]

I ended up getting a Wave 2 invite for MY22, there's a few things I may change if I could do it over again.

1) I think I would've preferred Atlas Blue to my Carbonized Grey Metallic, if I kept the same truck.

2) If I knew they were adding heated seats and that I would've been price protected, I may have held my reservation until 2023. I likely would've been the first in line for MY23, which meant I probably could've gotten a Pro at original MSRP. Alternatively, if the XLT was price locked, I could've gotten a MY23 with heated seats for the MY22 price.

I actually prefer my XLT to the Pro, I've been in both. It's just the original Pro MSRP was so absurd + tax rebate, anyone who had the option to buy one would be insane to pass it up. On the other hand, I have loved having the truck since Aug22, if I was still waiting now I'm sure I'd be going nuts. So maybe not real regrets, but considerations is more appropriate.

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