Anyone here with FRDS license that has updated there APIM?

[Snakebitten]

Is it possible that with the chip shortage that manufacturers are choosing to do things that they ordinarily would NOT do, like change suppliers or sources for parts midstream in a model year that does indeed present some of these unintended consequences?

Imagine the pressure on the procurement team to FIND components to keep these production lines moving at at least some pace? Afterall, chip shortages are currently forcing manufacturers to remove options from vehicles just to get them built.

You can order an $80,000 Denali right now but you CAN'T get heated seats. Imagine that for a second. What an amazing example of what manufacturers are up against.

I'm not saying that's the reason for things that don't make sense regarding this thread. But I bet someone at Ford could field your questions and reply with an explanation for all this incompatibility.

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[Jesse-Infotainment]

It happed in 2010, with the Tsunami in Japan. Ford was shipping platinum trucks without navigation. Clarion was the OEM at the time. They couldnt get them. I had a bunch and was helping dealers add them. Thats what originally got me into this. I was not even doing this stuff. I had a Ford dealer BEG me to figure it out. I did and it worked fine. So we started doing a bunch of them.

Ford historically has multiple part numbers for vehicles. They have always had revisions and changes mid flight. The Sync 3 Apim has 3-4 versions. The 2016 APIMs are trash. Then in 2018 They had some made in mexico I cant remember the plant name and they had panasonic making them also. In 2018 they changed to a single port USB and the firmware changed. Then in 2019 they changed again in some cars and not others. The same happened with MyFord touch. The later builds had a Y serial number APIM that was not interchangeable with X serial cars. The 15 F150 and 15 Mustang and 15 edge and some others strictly used that APIM. Then they had X serials with single USB ports release that at the time were not interchangeable with the other x serial numbers. You could install a single USB port X serial into a dual usb x serial car but not the other way around.

They have already done it with sync 4. With the 21146 and 21223. The sync 3 had a serious issue going from 1.0 to 2.0 some apims required a certain order of updates or you would lose your voice commands. Non nav cars couldnt update they had MEM errors that you would have to erase the gracenote package to make room and then update. 2.0 was a huge update becuase it enabled car play and android auto so it was a huge cluster because that what everyone wanted. Then you had the early 2016 cars shipped with USB hubs that had to be replaced for carplay to work.

I could go on forever. Long story short, I am sure there was some impact of some kind, Ford though has always had crazy stuff going on.

 

[JHForman812]

21136 and 21223 is what is on early 21.5 and late 21.5

I haven’t been able to pull a 22 yet to see.

the gateway is not the same . The f150 has two different gateways between 21 and 21.5

bronco is different. Edge is different. Mach e is different.


Early super duty shipped with 21136 an earlier build of 21223

yeah the super duty getting the newer firmware and 150s not kinda upset people, I’ve been able to access all my cameras at speed since the day I got my truck.

I really want the 22 F150 APIM software, there seems to be some nice features to it, like the clock being shifted, the IODs no longer attached to the upper status bar which gives me hope that full screen car play is coming or is already there? If you get access to the 22 software I’d like to try it in the super duty.

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