New 500A charging on standard range lightning

[chl]

When you're in a hurry, I can see how 10 minutes can make a difference in a half-an-hour or so charge stop. (Battery swapping can be done in about 10 minutes without the stress on the battery you own in your vehicle, based on AMPLE and NIO anyway - that being ubiquitous would get me excited!)

Personally, I am not a big fan of DC fast charging anyway because of the stress it puts on the battery. The change ("improvment?") to the charge curve being discussed just adds to the stress on the battery by front-loading more current.

Fast charging is a lot more expensive than charging at home, I pay 5 cents a kWh overnight L2 charging at home. Fast charging is often ten times that or more.

But I can understand why fast charging is needed - long trips, etc. It is just not something I envision needing. And I'm more interested in longevity - slow and steady wins that race in the long run.

NOTE: I don't want to get into a debate about fast charging's pros and cons, or how much life span it takes from the battery, so please spare me all that.

I tend to "baby" my vehicles and keep them a long time. 2001 Ford Ranger kept until 2024 (when I bought the Lightning) and passed it on to a grandson. My 2012 Nissan Leaf has been providing me with short local trips for nearly 14 years (took delivery in Dec 2011) and it still has 80% capacity (maybe 70 miles range, lol).

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[electricpig]

From reports here, both SR.and LR essentially charge at the same rate with this update (still waiting here). This potentially means a greater impact for the SR due to being a smaller battery pack. Since 180kw and 130kw dump a proportionally larger fraction of the capacity of the smaller battery pack. I would love to see a comparison of say 20%-80% (20 or 25% so your start at a higher battery voltage for better initial speed) to see if this is actually the case. Probably not that big a difference, but could matter to some.

 

[biers]

Testing out a new local Mercedes network DC charger. Plugged in at 48% and hit 185kW. Most I ever got before on the SR pack (before swapping it for an ER pack) was 167 kW.

 

[electricpig]

Testing out a new local Mercedes network DC charger. Plugged in at 48% and hit 185kW. Most I ever got before on the SR pack (before swapping it for an ER pack) was 167 kW.

FWIW, I've gotten a bit over 178 max on my SR, but usually ~174 max, occasionally lower.

 

[carys98]

Testing out a new local Mercedes network DC charger. Plugged in at 48% and hit 185kW. Most I ever got before on the SR pack (before swapping it for an ER pack) was 167 kW.

Both SR and ER are limited to 500A but the ER battery is a higher voltage. That accounts for the higher power on the ER pack. You could have actually pulled 8 kW more but something was limiting you to 489 A.

 

[biers]

Both SR and ER are limited to 500A but the ER battery is a higher voltage. That accounts for the higher power on the ER pack. You could have actually pulled 8 kW more but something was limiting you to 489 A.

My guess is it started dropping when I hit 50%.

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