chl
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- First Name
- CHRIS
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- alexandria virginia
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- 2023 F-150 LIGHTNING, 2012 Nissan Leaf, 2015 Toyota Prius, 2000 HD 883 Sportster
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- Patent Atty / Electrical Engineer
When you're in a hurry, I can see how 10 minutes can make a difference in a half-an-hour or so charge stop. (Battery swapping can be done in about 10 minutes without the stress on the battery you own in your vehicle, based on AMPLE and NIO anyway - that being ubiquitous would get me excited!)
Personally, I am not a big fan of DC fast charging anyway because of the stress it puts on the battery. The change ("improvment?") to the charge curve being discussed just adds to the stress on the battery by front-loading more current.
Fast charging is a lot more expensive than charging at home, I pay 5 cents a kWh overnight L2 charging at home. Fast charging is often ten times that or more.
But I can understand why fast charging is needed - long trips, etc. It is just not something I envision needing. And I'm more interested in longevity - slow and steady wins that race in the long run.
NOTE: I don't want to get into a debate about fast charging's pros and cons, or how much life span it takes from the battery, so please spare me all that.
I tend to "baby" my vehicles and keep them a long time. 2001 Ford Ranger kept until 2024 (when I bought the Lightning) and passed it on to a grandson. My 2012 Nissan Leaf has been providing me with short local trips for nearly 14 years (took delivery in Dec 2011) and it still has 80% capacity (maybe 70 miles range, lol).
Personally, I am not a big fan of DC fast charging anyway because of the stress it puts on the battery. The change ("improvment?") to the charge curve being discussed just adds to the stress on the battery by front-loading more current.
Fast charging is a lot more expensive than charging at home, I pay 5 cents a kWh overnight L2 charging at home. Fast charging is often ten times that or more.
But I can understand why fast charging is needed - long trips, etc. It is just not something I envision needing. And I'm more interested in longevity - slow and steady wins that race in the long run.
NOTE: I don't want to get into a debate about fast charging's pros and cons, or how much life span it takes from the battery, so please spare me all that.
I tend to "baby" my vehicles and keep them a long time. 2001 Ford Ranger kept until 2024 (when I bought the Lightning) and passed it on to a grandson. My 2012 Nissan Leaf has been providing me with short local trips for nearly 14 years (took delivery in Dec 2011) and it still has 80% capacity (maybe 70 miles range, lol).
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