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I received this email from them on August 5th as well. I interpreted it as just another generic acknowledgement that I had placed a reservation. What would make us think that those of us who received it are among the "chosen ones"?
I’m not sure that it states that either, I do believe that Ford will honor the time stamp of that reservation and inform those when to place an order. Sorta like first come first serve (I hope)?
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shot at getting one in 2022 if they only make 15,000. The question I have now is will the vehicles delivered later in the year be 2023MY?
Yeah, assuming the 15k number is even real (because it was not direct from Ford), the next question is:

Does 15k for 2022 mean:

1. 15,000 Lightnings that are Model Year 2022 (Produced between April 2022 and Sept 2022), with thousands more Lightnings being built in 2022 (September through December) as Model Year 2023s? There might actually be 25-30k

OR

2. 15,000 Lightings being built in calendar year 2022, period.
 

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Yeah, assuming the 15k number is even real (because it was not direct from Ford)
Personally, I’m hoping that number was leaked to lower expectations and get folks who are only casually interested to drop their reservation and get their $100 back (and to discourage new reservations). Hopefully, the real production numbers will be higher, but Ford just doesn’t want us to know that yet. Unless SK has told them they will only be able to deliver 15,000 batteries in 2022, I just don’t see how Ford’s production could be so low.
 

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I received this email from them on August 5th as well. I interpreted it as just another generic acknowledgement that I had placed a reservation. What would make us think that those of us who received it are among the "chosen ones"?
How is Ford supposed to know if you are the "chosen one" if no one has even placed an order yet? Thousands of those reservations will be canceled and Ford has no idea yet (publicly at least) how many units they can build yet.
 

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Personally, I’m hoping that number was leaked to lower expectations and get folks who are only casually interested to drop their reservation and get their $100 back (and to discourage new reservations). Hopefully, the real production numbers will be higher, but Ford just doesn’t want us to know that yet. Unless SK has told them they will only be able to deliver 15,000 batteries in 2022, I just don’t see how Ford’s production could be so low.
Yeah, they could be tempering expectations. Perhaps they saw the "80k/year" number that was going around from some analyst and thought, "Yikes, we better temper expectations because we're not going to hit that for a couple years at least."

Hard to say.

But they're kinda doing that with the Bronco, now, too, by not allowing any more online reservations.
 

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Could you expand a bit more about the importance of dealer allotment? Are you suggesting that those dealerships that had higher sales volume in a previous year may be prioritized over low volume sales dealerships? Hmmmm…so if everyone places their order with the same dealership, then what??? Is there a list posted somewhere informing the public which dealerships had the highest sales volume in a specific area? I traveled a long way to get my Power Boost and I’ll do the same to get my Lightning, just need info on how to “Play the Game”.?
Dealers with higher sales volume might be prioritized to some extent. Again, on Bronco that was 25% of the equation. Ford does publish a list internally of the top 500 dealers each month but we don't know what level of importance (if any this go round, it's all up to Ford) pure sales numbers will have this time.

On Bronco the most important aspect was % of reservations converted to actual orders at 50% of the equation for allocation. So even if you place your order with a high volume dealer that doesn't necessarily give you a better spot in relation to the other reservation holders. Your best bet is to find a dealer who you believe is treating it's customers well with good up to date info. If the formula is similar then you get a better chance of getting your Lightning sooner.

As an example, our dealership was the only one in our region to have our Bronco allocation increased, and we are not the top volume dealer in that group.

We all have to wait until Ford releases the allocation formula or lack of one.
 

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After reading about this and hearing about the Bronco debacle, I have also placed a reservation for a Rivian. I would rather have a Ford, but I am going to need a truck at some point- can’t wait forever!
I also reserved a Rivian after hearing the 15k number.

I’d much prefer a 32k (after tax credit) Lightning Pro.

No way I’d ever spend 40k (assuming tax credits gone) on a 230 mile EV. So if to get to 300 miles you have to spend 60k (for an XLT) I’d rather have a Rivian for $63k (after tax credit).
 

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I also reserved a Rivian after hearing the 15k number.

I’d much prefer a 32k (after tax credit) Lightning Pro.

No way I’d ever spend 40k (assuming tax credits gone) on a 230 mile EV. So if to get to 300 miles you have to spend 60k (for an XLT) I’d rather have a Rivian for $63k (after tax credit).
I understand this is a F-150 thread but people keep mentioning the Rivian so I’ll ask: what makes you confident that you’ll be getting it any faster than the Lightning? I wish I could sit in one and get a sense of leg/headroom and general spaciousness of the cabin—this is my #1 priority personally.
 

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I understand this is a F-150 thread but people keep mentioning the Rivian so I’ll ask: what makes you confident that you’ll be getting it any faster than the Lightning? I wish I could sit in one and get a sense of leg/headroom and general spaciousness of the cabin—this is my #1 priority personally.
From what I hear it's pretty good up front, a little small in the back.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-rivian-r1t-electric-pickup-truck-interior-review/
 

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I understand this is a F-150 thread but people keep mentioning the Rivian so I’ll ask: what makes you confident that you’ll be getting it any faster than the Lightning? I wish I could sit in one and get a sense of leg/headroom and general spaciousness of the cabin—this is my #1 priority personally.
If legroom / headroom is your #1 priority the Lighting will definitely fit that best!

For me personally, I’m not in a massive hurry, so not concerned about which I could get first. My calculus is more about the relative value of a vehicle, and it’s hard to beat a $7500 incentive. In fact without the tax credit an EV would be a harder sell in general.

That said, Ford only sold ~1500 Mach E’s in August, so maybe the tax credit will hold out longer than I’m thinking.
 
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I like the thought process here. Whatever fully electric vehicle coming down the pike that can fit my big butt and the family gets my money first. Having an EV just makes a lot of sense on several levels, but I’m not convinced the Rivian is any closer than anyone else (in the truck/full sized suv category)…or are they?
I'm thinking the same way however the problem is actually getting to sit in one any time soon... I had a first day Bronco reservation but would not order until I actually put but in chair. Fortunately I was able to sit in one (but not drive it) before the first order window closed and sadly learned that it was not comfortable for me.

I will however order a Lightning without sitting in one as it cannot be very different from any other F-150 and I fit very nicely in every MY2021 I have sat in.
 

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I will however order a Lightning without sitting in one as it cannot be very different from any other F-150 and I fit very nicely in every MY2021 I have sat in.
Yes, the interior will be the same as the current truck. The exterior dimensions are the same too. The real difference is it is going to be faster and handle much better.
 

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If legroom / headroom is your #1 priority the Lighting will definitely fit that best!

For me personally, I’m not in a massive hurry, so not concerned about which I could get first. My calculus is more about the relative value of a vehicle, and it’s hard to beat a $7500 incentive. In fact without the tax credit an EV would be a harder sell in general.

That said, Ford only sold ~1500 Mach E’s in August, so maybe the tax credit will hold out longer than I’m thinking.
Hmm.. Now you have me thinking. Ford has been diverting the majority of Mach-e production to Europe. I wonder if they are doing that to preserve the credit for the Lightning launch. Could also be why the F-150 hybrid is not a plug in hybrid.
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