Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

[RickLightning]

I won't be able to answer these (yet). But I'm saving them in an "EREV" document now so I can come back to them when I can.

Wow, what a cop out. I answered them for you below, using AI.... The AI was trained by the US Justice Department...

• What is the estimated EV only range?
  
• What is the estimated towing capacity / targets? (This is important as Scout announced lower towering capacity for their gas extender version than their BEV version)
  
• Will there still Be a frunk or will the engine take its place? If there is a frunk, is it anticipated to be a similar size (please say yes)
  
• Any cost estimates (Keep at current BEV pricing, due to advanced battery tech, insourcing and/or pack size, etc)
  
• What is the expected behavior when towing long distances, can you keep filling up and keep driving, or do you have to stop and charge, just after longer intervals because the generator can’t keep up with that level of energy depletion?
  
• Is 10 years support from model year, or announcement date?
  
• What battery architecture are you targeting (sounds like LFP)?
  
• What charging architecture are you targeting, 400v, 800v, etc?
  
• What changes will there be to Pro Power Onboard? Will there still be 2 separate inverters or will you have 1 inverter that can offboard 9.7 or higher kWh?
  
• Will these be an EREV specific design, or will it similarly be based on a shared F-150 ICE platform?
  

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[I <3 My Lightning]

Using this logic, you wouldn't buy any vehicle from any manufacturer ever, since they all discontinued models at one time or another For example since VW is pulling the plug on ID Buzz, you must forgo buying any VW, Porsche, Slate, Bentley.

You forgot the future Scout motors, owned by its parents company VW. Perhaps you should also not use EA chargers too... The rabbit hole is deep.

 

[SomeStupidDriver]

You forgot the future Scout motors, owned by its parents company VW. Perhaps you should also not use EA chargers too... The rabbit hole is deep.

Using this logic, you wouldn't buy any vehicle from any manufacturer ever, since they all discontinued models at one time or another For example since VW is pulling the plug on ID Buzz, you must forgo buying any VW, Porsche, Slate, Bentley.

Yeah, and? You really think I have a problem NOT buying from a brand that I don't feel deserves me as a customer? There is some late stage capitalism sentiment going on in this thread

 

[Pitbull2o08]

Should all us Ford 150 Lightning owners get together and start a class action suit? We bought these vehicles because we were promised this wouldn't happen and that the resale value of our vehicles would be within the normal curve. Will Ford buy back our vehicles at what would have been the the normal prorated value if they hadn't dicountinued the technology?

Who tf promised you resale value?? I must have missed that memo.

 

[PJnc284]

Who tf promised you resale value?? I must have missed that memo.

This is what happens when everyone gets participation trophies.

 

[homeboy]

Hi F-150 Lightning owners,

I’m coming to you today with an update on our product roadmap. There has been a lot of speculation recently and we just went live with some news. So, I want to give you the facts straight from Ford, explain what is changing, and more importantly, why.

With the F-150 Lightning, we proved an electric truck could be a hit, and it has remained the best-selling electric pickup. Let’s be real about what we’ve learned from you, the owners, and the market over the last few years. You love the electric performance, smoothness, and the tech, but for those that drive long distances, take frequent trips or tow heavy loads across state lines often, an F-150 Lightning might not be the truck for them. And we want it to be.

We took a bet, produced an amazing product that so many people love, and now we’re making adjustments in response to evolving market realities, consumer preferences, and the regulatory environment. No one could have predicted how the EV landscape would change in the U.S., which has impacted the industry.
That is why our next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability. That is a game-changer for our customers. Like the current F-150 Lightning, the next-gen version will also offer exportable electricity that can power everything from work sites to camp sites to homes during a power outage.

For those who aren’t familiar with EREVs, this isn't a traditional plug-in hybrid. This is an electric vehicle with an on-board generator. It’s designed to give you the electric capability you enjoy around town, but with the range and towing confidence of a gas truck when you’re hauling a boat or camper. It will be assembled right here in Dearborn at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center.

What this means for the current generation F-150 Lightning and “T3” truck​

Production of the current generation of F-150 Lightning will end this year, and we have also made the decision to no longer produce the next-generation full-size electric truck, also known as “T3”. For those that still wish to purchase a MY25 F-150 Lightning, we have good inventory and interested customers can purchase from dealer stock.

If you have an order in, or were waiting on one, please contact your dealer immediately to see if your vehicle will be built or if they can match you to an existing stock unit.

As for existing Lightning customers who might be coming off lease or looking or a new Lightning, we are looking at the following:

• Assist early adopters to purchase or lease a new 25MY Lightning
• Offering extensions to customers who wish to extend their leases beyond the original term
• Providing dealer support to help match customer with available inventory

What about support for my current F-150 Lightning?​

I know reading "production is ending" can be nerve-wracking for current owners. I want to be clear: We are committed to ensuring ongoing support of your vehicle’s software updates, quality and experience. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. The team is not walking away from the current F-150 Lightning, and I’m not going anywhere.

The Ford Universal EV Platform​

While we shift F-150 Lightning to EREV, we are absolutely maintaining our plans and investment in the next generation of affordable EVs. The new Universal EV (UEV) platform is now more important than ever for Ford. UEV platform development is well underway. This flexible architecture will underpin a new family of smaller, more affordable, and cost-efficient vehicles—starting with a midsize pickup in 2027.

There is no impact to Mustang Mach-E. Mustang Mach-E is a great success story and is now available in almost 60 markets across the globe. It continues to be a standout electric SUV and plays an important role in the portfolio.

Other News: Battery Technology​

We are also making moves to make our business more sustainable. We are repurposing our Kentucky battery plant to build large-scale battery storage systems (for grid and industrial use), and our Michigan plant will be focusing on prismatic LFP cells. The same Michigan plant will be ramping up production in 2026 to power the new midsize electric truck built on our new Universal EV Platform.

Ford has been in manufacturing for over a century. We understand power management, thermal systems, safety engineering, and large-scale manufacturing. Our licensed LFP prismatic technology is proven, and our brand represents long-term accountability critical for 20+ year infrastructure investments.

I know this is a lot of news, and for the BEV purists, this might be tough to hear. We have a huge opportunity to get more people driving electric – whether that be plug-in hybrid, extended-range electric or pure electric vehicles and our plans set us up to succeed in this mission.

You can read the press release on this news here. I’ll be in the comments a later tonight to answer what I can.

Brian from Ford

I don't have time to read the myriad replies to this thread, but I assume someone will. So at the risk of this having been shared by someone else, here are my thoughts.

Ford, you are ruining one of the key things we all liked about this truck which was the lack of an ICE. Here's what you could have done instead...
In the frunk, have a special plug that will allow for charging while driving.
Provide a method for optional frunk ventilation (air intake, air exhaust)
Build a generator that fits nicely inside the frunk that can also be removed.

What this does for me:
I don't carry around an engine that I don't need when I don't need to, but I can get the extra range when I want it.
You've now given me the option to charge from any source while driving. Maybe I want to stick another battery pack in there... done. Maybe battery stations start popping up and I can just swap out my frunk batteries for new ones and get an immediate mileage increase.
I can maintain the generator without having to lose access to my vehicle.
Perhaps the generator works stand-alone as well... now I have another option to power my house when power is out.

You have said over and over that people only take a couple trips a year where they need the kind of range you are trying to give them 100% of the time. Having to put a generator in the frunk twice a year is a really simple ask.

Of course, I'm sure there are significant hurdles related to safety which are real... but a company like Ford should be able to lead in innovations like this without having to become a Chevy Volt.

 

[Deleted member 21405]

I don't have time to read the myriad replies to this thread, but I assume someone will. So at the risk of this having been shared by someone else, here are my thoughts.

Ford, you are ruining one of the key things we all liked about this truck which was the lack of an ICE. Here's what you could have done instead...
In the frunk, have a special plug that will allow for charging while driving.
Provide a method for optional frunk ventilation (air intake, air exhaust)
Build a generator that fits nicely inside the frunk that can also be removed.

What this does for me:
I don't carry around an engine that I don't need when I don't need to, but I can get the extra range when I want it.
You've now given me the option to charge from any source while driving. Maybe I want to stick another battery pack in there... done. Maybe battery stations start popping up and I can just swap out my frunk batteries for new ones and get an immediate mileage increase.
I can maintain the generator without having to lose access to my vehicle.
Perhaps the generator works stand-alone as well... now I have another option to power my house when power is out.

You have said over and over that people only take a couple trips a year where they need the kind of range you are trying to give them 100% of the time. Having to put a generator in the frunk twice a year is a really simple ask.

Of course, I'm sure there are significant hurdles related to safety which are real... but a company like Ford should be able to lead in innovations like this without having to become a Chevy Volt.

Yea it was all shared a million times. You wasted your time typing it all

 

[shutterbug]

You forgot the future Scout motors, owned by its parents company VW. Perhaps you should also not use EA chargers too... The rabbit hole is deep.

You're right. I was thinking Scout and wrote Slate. An obvious brain fart.

 

[shutterbug]

Yeah, and? You really think I have a problem NOT buying from a brand that I don't feel deserves me as a customer? There is some late stage capitalism sentiment going on in this thread

You bought a product. 3 years later the product was discontinued (for whatever reason). You've been happy with that product, and the company promises to support it for 10 years. However, you're miffed that no one else will be able to buy that specific product in the future. And that makes you think that particular company doesn't deserve to have you as a customer!?

I, OTOH refuse to buy from any company ever affiliated with Chrysler (yes, including Mercedes). Not because they discontinued some car I owned (and they have), but because their quality is craptacular. 3 Chryslers that cost me tons to repair them is enough.

 

[b.go]

I don't want an ICE vehicle, even an EREV. I guess I'll be going elsewhere for my next truck.

 

[b.go]

I absolutely love my Lightning, but I'll be going with a Scout or Rivian for my next pickup.

 

[taraafico]

I don’t know! It hurts. Freaking KIA and Hyundai are producing a better cars/ EV than Ford ??!! Shame. Someone has to take responsibility.

 

[flux capacitor]

I think that a diesel/electric system is a better hybrid system then Ford current hybrid system. Ford should have stopped the hybrid production and redesigned it and leave the Lightening alone just improve it with faster charging and make them all extended range. All I can say is everyone knows what a Locomotive sounds like with its diesel/electric system not something I want to hear. The piece and quite I get in my lightning is so relaxing.

 

[SomeStupidDriver]

You bought a product. 3 years later the product was discontinued (for whatever reason). You've been happy with that product, and the company promises to support it for 10 years. However, you're miffed that no one else will be able to buy that specific product in the future. And that makes you think that particular company doesn't deserve to have you as a customer!?

I, OTOH refuse to buy from any company ever affiliated with Chrysler (yes, including Mercedes). Not because they discontinued some car I owned (and they have), but because their quality is craptacular. 3 Chryslers that cost me tons to repair them is enough.

yeah except I never said any of that. I replied to a very specific sentiment that made no mention of any of that crap.

Maybe slow down on running to defend a billion dollar corp long enough to read my entire message and the context before replying.

 

[RickLightning]

You forgot the future Scout motors, owned by its parents company VW. Perhaps you should also not use EA chargers too... The rabbit hole is deep.

The fact that VW owns Scout is EXACTLY why I would never consider buying one. Dieselgate. "F the customers, and the environment". Intentionally engineering vehicles to falsify emissions testing.

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