2023 F-150 Lightning ORDER GUIDE Released (U.S. & Canada)!

[rdr854]

How the heck do they remove AM radio only? I can’t imagine there was a chip being avoided that removes a constraint.

This is not something that is unique to Ford. According to thedrive.com, EVs and/or PHEVs from Audi, BMW, Porsche, Tesla and Volvo are sold without AM radios. Apparently, some OEMs have stated that it is the result of poor sound quality caused by interference from the EV drivetrain. Another reason might be that AM is not as popular as it is in North America.

A link to the article is below.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/heres-why-some-automakers-tune-out-am-radios-in-new-cars

I think that this is unfortunate news since the highway traffic advisory system relies on AM band transmitters.

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[gorwell]

The antenna delete is responsible for the 10 mile range increase in the SR .

(actually, it's from adding heated seats)

So it is massaging the EPA numbers

in CA, most people have zero reason to use heated seats year-round, so we've always had the +10 miles

 

[RavenYZF-R6]

So it is massaging the EPA numbers

in CA, most people have zero reason to use heated seats year-round, so we've always had the +10 miles

Wait a tick! The MME California Route 1 edition has heated seats and steering wheel….

 

[ShirBlackspots]

Bye bye AM radio. Does this mean the big antenna is gone?

Yeah, too much interference from the inverters and motors.

The addition of heated seats to the Pro is what seals the deal for me. Definitely going to choose the Pro. Too bad they got rid of Atlas Blue.

 

[Snappy22]

Yeah, too much interference from the inverters and motors.

The addition of heated seats to the Pro is what seals the deal for me. Definitely going to choose the Pro. Too bad they got rid of Atlas Blue.

why would it not list heated seats in the order guide tho? Nor On build and price (tho we know how misleading b&p can be)

 

[RavenYZF-R6]

why would it not list heated seats in the order guide tho? Nor On build and price (tho we know how misleading b&p can be)

It does list the Pro heated front seats in the order guide posted to this thread.

 

[bryan995]

(actually, it's from adding heated seats)

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. What an engineering accomplishment. Elon must be losing it. Hah

So for those us in CA.
No need for HVAC heating and no need for heated seats. What is our EPA estimate?

+30 miles ?

 

[ErichKeane]

That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. What an engineering accomplishment. Elon must be losing it. Hah

So for those us in CA.
No need for HVAC heating and no need for heated seats. What is our EPA estimate?

+30 miles ?

The estimates are typically for the 'lowest optioned' version of a trim, where the manufacturer splits up the trims based on how many they care to pay for (and can justify the option sets being close enough to not need further testing).

The test from the EPA is designed to be a somewhat realistic test, so it requires that the cabin be held at a certain temperature (given a certain exterior ambient temperature). HOWEVER, they acknowledge that a warm butt makes people be comfortable at a lower temperature, so they lower the required interior temp.

In an EV, heat is VERY expensive to generate, since you don't have a giant 65% efficient space-heater running in front of the vehicle. It is typically a resistor based heater (though some EVs have a heat pump!), which are pretty horribly inefficient.

The ONLY purpose for the EPA numbers are a 'fair' comparison between vehicles, so 'I'm in a place where I never need a heater!' doesn't really come into factor, the same way, "I live on the top of a hill, and my car takes a cable-car back to the top at the end of the day!" doesnt.

 

[Administrator]

The CANADA order guide (8/10/22) for the 2023 F-150 Lightning has been added to the first post.

 

[Snappy22]

Oh snap! I missed it! I’m excited!
(Typical Ford move to not put it on the first page where “changes from 2022” are supposed to be listed)

 

[Administrator]

The first post has been updated with the latest F-150 Lightning order guide (2/1/2023). Note that not all pages have been updated so you will see different dates on each page.

(Apologies, posted it in the wrong thread before)

 

[Calvin H-C]

Yeah, too much interference from the inverters and motors.

Having been driving a Focus Electric for nearly five and a half years, I've found the noise on the AM radio to be not significantly worse than it was with non-electronic ignition ICE vehicles. Still, the one AM station I listen to is available on an app that sounds better and reaches beyond the station's broadcast range.

Too bad they got rid of Atlas Blue.

That was my my wife's choice for her Lightning, but with it not available she went with Antimatter Blue. Then the dealership messed up the order when they had to manually copy it from their sales system to Ford's factory order system (why don't these two systems work together?!?) and it became Agate Black.

The dealership has offered a small compensation for the error, though now that we see the two colours are almost identical, it's not as bad an error as we first thought.

 

[lakeguy55]

Any updates to this since February or will that be it for MY23?

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