Anyone more worried now about 11th hour ADM?

[monsterlag]

Zero concern that my dealer would pull anything after handshaking on a deal. Greico of Delray Beach. Have no suspicions that any of the at least six Ford dealers I have purchased from in the past would do so either. Y'all seem like easy pluck'in. If you go in on an equal footing, with full information, show respect, no fear, and no attitude, set your conditions and parameters, with a fair view to providing reasonable profitability, dealers generally aren't going to screw you. ADM is not screwing you. It is their choice, and would lead to me walking out - plenty of other dealers who don't need to do that. The bile shown here towards car dealers is destructive only to those who have it.

Ooh we got a badass over here. I am not sure how you could sound even more pretentious.

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[LightningShow]

Zero concern that my dealer would pull anything after handshaking on a deal. Greico of Delray Beach. Have no suspicions that any of the at least six Ford dealers I have purchased from in the past would do so either. Y'all seem like easy pluck'in. If you go in on an equal footing, with full information, show respect, no fear, and no attitude, set your conditions and parameters, with a fair view to providing reasonable profitability, dealers generally aren't going to screw you. ADM is not screwing you. It is their choice, and would lead to me walking out - plenty of other dealers who don't need to do that. The bile shown here towards car dealers is destructive only to those who have it.

It's not just car dealers, it's sales people across the board...and I've been a salesperson, so I speak from intimate knowledge.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

It's not just car dealers, it's sales people across the board...and I've been a salesperson, so I speak from intimate knowledge.

yeah, but see the response just above yours. I suggest a little humility and advance work, respect, get accused of pretentiousness! Sheesh. No one is making anyone pay anything for any truck, full stop. If you do something stupid, that's on you. And saying so isn't pretentious.

 

[Ruination]

I'm more worried about the actual range the EPA will release, tbh

 

[illusion86]

I got an email from the dealership saying they weren’t adding any ADM to any vehicle they sell!

 

[monsterlag]

yeah, but see the response just above yours. I suggest a little humility and advance work, respect, get accused of pretentiousness! Sheesh. No one is making anyone pay anything for any truck, full stop. If you do something stupid, that's on you. And saying so isn't pretentious.

You can say what you want to say without sounding like a complete knob but you can’t seem to understand that. God bless the poor sales people who have to work with you.

 

[Marshall]

yeah, but see the response just above yours. I suggest a little humility and advance work, respect, get accused of pretentiousness! Sheesh. No one is making anyone pay anything for any truck, full stop. If you do something stupid, that's on you. And saying so isn't pretentious.

As a person who was upfront, friendly, and communicative with the dealer, asking multiple times about ADM prior to ordering and had $0 ADM on the order form, which the dealer approved, only to have the dealer add and additional $20k, 21 days after the fact "because they were only getting one this year", your self-aggrandizing words of wisdom ring a little hollow.

 

[vandy1981]

As a person who was upfront, friendly, and communicative with the dealer, asking multiple times about ADM prior to ordering and had $0 ADM on the order form, which the dealer approved, only to have the dealer add and additional $20k, 21 days after the fact "because they were only getting one this year", your self-aggrandizing words of wisdom ring a little hollow.

Did you forget the handshake when you made the deal? If so, you were clearly easy pluck'in and not deserving of your dealer's respect .

Maybe you would have gotten better results if you had shouted, "I AM A PERSON OF HIGH NET WORTH AND YOU CAN'T TREAT ME THIS WAY," at the dealership's sales manager. ALL CAPS emails also help, in my experience.

 

[greenne]

Did you forget the handshake when you made the deal? If so, you were clearly easy pluck'in and not deserving of your dealer's respect .

Maybe you would have gotten better results if you had shouted, "I AM A PERSON OF HIGH NET WORTH AND YOU CAN'T TREAT ME THIS WAY," at the dealership's sales manager. ALL CAPS emails also help, in my experience.

No..but you can let them know if they f-ck with you..not only will you decline to buy the truck, but you'll go on every social media platform and every message board and tell the captive audience what dishonest pieces of sh-t they are. And that is after you call Ford corporate to file a complaint, file a complaint with the BBB, and contact the attorney general of the state in which they do business.

I live in upstate NY..News stations are always looking for a news story to pitch of a customer getting ripped off.

Not saying this will always work..but its important that everyone know where we stand. No games, no gimmicks, no BS.

 

[monsterlag]

No..but you can let them know if they f-ck with you..not only will you decline to buy the truck, but you'll go on every social media platform and every message board and tell the captive audience what dishonest pieces of sh-t they are. And that is after you call Ford corporate to file a complaint, file a complaint with the BBB, and contact the attorney general of the state in which they do business.

I live in upstate NY..News stations are always looking for a news story to pitch of a customer getting ripped off.

Not saying this will always work..but its important that everyone know where we stand. No games, no gimmicks, no BS.

Damn we must all be Karens up here in Upstate NY, none of the Ford dealers are doing ADMs on Lightning afaik.

 

[Marshall]

No..but you can let them know if they f-ck with you..not only will you decline to buy the truck, but you'll go on every social media platform and every message board and tell the captive audience what dishonest pieces of sh-t they are. And that is after you call Ford corporate to file a complaint, file a complaint with the BBB, and contact the attorney general of the state in which they do business.

I live in upstate NY..News stations are always looking for a news story to pitch of a customer getting ripped off.

Not saying this will always work..but its important that everyone know where we stand. No games, no gimmicks, no BS.

Just to be clear, contrary to recent memos that may have implied otherwise, Ford corporate will not do a damn thing about ADM or dealers mistreating customers.

And the dealer doesn’t care about me not buying the truck either, I have a wave 1 PRO order, lowest profit margin. They convince me to cancel, they can respec as a Platinum and sell for $5k over and still make more money.

 

[Marshall]

Maybe you would have gotten better results if you had shouted at the dealership's sales manager. ALL CAPS emails also help, in my experience.

I don’t always shout at sales managers, but when I do, ITS ALWAYS IN ALL CAPS. Stay thirsty my friends.

 

[greenne]

Damn we must all be Karens up here in Upstate NY, none of the Ford dealers are doing ADMs on Lightning afaik.

Thankfully I have not seen a lot of ADMs here from any of the dealers. <knock on wood>

 

[beatle]

yeah, but see the response just above yours. I suggest a little humility and advance work, respect, get accused of pretentiousness! Sheesh. No one is making anyone pay anything for any truck, full stop. If you do something stupid, that's on you. And saying so isn't pretentious.

No, nobody is making anyone close an unsatisfactory deal, but people have invested a lot of time (over a year) waiting, planning, and preparing for delivery, only to have the terms changed at the 11th hour. Dealerships know the value of this intangible investment and may attempt to exploit it. You can be assertive, polite, thorough, and pleasant all you like, and some dealers may still try to put you over a barrel because they're greedy sociopaths, and another sucker will be around soon enough. Without a signed contract your only recourse is generally to walk away which still counts as an "L" since you now have to find another vehicle which starts the cycle over again. Let's just hope these situations are few and far between, but there are many stories of dealerships doing this before, and it is right to be guarded while snake handling.

There can be a fine line between being paranoid and being prepared, but at the very least people should be prepared.

 

[PungoteagueDave]

You can say what you want to say without sounding like a complete knob but you can’t seem to understand that. God bless the poor sales people who have to work with you.

Never had an issue - they prefer informed, prepared customers, and tell me so. I do not act like a dick, always come prepared with fresh baked chocolate chip cookies. Don;t make assumptions about people you don't know.

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