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[edcoble]

Nope not at all, the gov should not subside a product. Let the market decide.

The market is mindless. I prefer things like the TVA, Covid vaccines, the internet, and a few other things that would not exist but for ...the government.

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[luebri]

The earth is 4.5 billion years old, and yes there have been many changes over the years,

I have to be honest with, this is the biggest part I struggle with about Climate concern. From my research the first rudimentary logging of global temperature started almost 200 years ago.

"Mid-19th Century (1850s–1880s): Systematic global temperature records began with land-based thermometers, particularly in Europe and North America. The data was collected manually and was limited in geographic coverage."​

If its truly been 200 years that data set is 200 / 4,500,000,000 =0.0000000444

Kind of seems like a small data set to me.

 

[hturnerfamily]

I didn't buy an EV truck, or car, because the 'government' said anything. It's not their business.

I also don't think any infrastructure slow-down, if there actually is any, will affect any of us in any way. You have a LOT of charging options - use them.

with over 50,000 miles on my LIGHTNING, and 1/2 of that towing our Camper, and a newer KIA EV9 with over 22,000 miles... there's no 'infrastructure' problem that stands in our way.

 

[sotek2345]

I have to be honest with, this is the biggest part I struggle with about Climate concern. From my research the first rudimentary logging of global temperature started almost 200 years ago.

"Mid-19th Century (1850s–1880s): Systematic global temperature records began with land-based thermometers, particularly in Europe and North America. The data was collected manually and was limited in geographic coverage."​

If its truly been 200 years that data set is 200 / 4,500,000,000 =0.0000000444

Kind of seems like a small data set to me.

We have data sets going back much further via ice core samples, trees, fossils and similar techniques.

https://www.climate.gov/maps-data/c...study of,instruments are called proxy records.

 

[luebri]

We have data sets going back much further via ice core samples, trees, fossils and similar techniques.

https://www.climate.gov/maps-data/climate-data-primer/past-climate#:~:text=Paleoclimatology is the study of,instruments are called proxy records.

Thank you for sharing.

Something else I struggle with is extrapolated data assumptions from so called experts. 2020 certainly did not help my struggle with that.

I'll consider that a me problem, and try and work on it.

 

[Firn]

I like the fact that EVs are not mainstream. I'd love to see them stay that way. Mine is a commuter only, the only EVSE i need is in my garage.

Commuting IS the mainstream use of automobiles...that does not the same car is not also used for other things that require a public charger.

 

[OCSTEVE39]

The good news for all of you trump supporters is that the term 'climate change' has been removed from the governments vocabulary. So no more hurricanes, no more floods, no more fires, no more once in a lifetime (every year) massive storms. No need to try to do anything to try to help that situation. The only thing he has accomplished on day one. Drill baby drill.

Actually addressing problems is now replaced with declarations of our own realities. We are now safe from the 100 trans athletes in women's sports, GOOGLE is pretending there is a body of water called Gulf of AMERICA, California has been hiding that spicket they've had in the North all this time, and my own chapter of lizard people was just exposed by Joe Rogan. Let's pack it in fellas.

 

[evowner]

Actually addressing problems is now replaced with declarations of our own realities. We are now safe from the 100 trans athletes in women's sports, GOOGLE is pretending there is a body of water called Gulf of AMERICA, California has been hiding that spicket they've had in the North all this time, and my own chapter of lizard people was just exposed by Joe Rogan. Let's pack it in fellas.

Holy crap, batman. I didn't know any of that. It's BAD.

 

[OCSTEVE39]

Holy crap, batman. I didn't know any of that. It's BAD.

What I didn't know was that water actually flows according to how you hang the map.

 

[luebri]

What I didn't know was that water actually flows according to how you hang the map.

That is funny... but to be fair it is fairly common knowledge that the vast majority of Rivers in North America flow Southward.

 

[OCSTEVE39]

Thank you for sharing.

Something else I struggle with is extrapolated data assumptions from so called experts. 2020 certainly did not help my struggle with that.

I'll consider that a me problem, and try and work on it.

1800 might be when America was last "great" and all that, but there's been a few data collection\analysis advancements since that time.

 

[OCSTEVE39]

That is funny... but to be fair it is fairly common knowledge that the vast majority of Rivers in North America flow Southward.

Which river exactly is putting out the next statewide fire in California?

 

[luebri]

Which river exactly is putting out the next statewide fire in California?

No idea, not an issue I have dug deeply into. For your sake and everyone else's, regardless of who is involved in improving that issue I hope there are improvements made in the ability for CA to limit the damage of wild fires regardless of cause.

 

[OCSTEVE39]

No idea, not an issue I have dug deeply into. For your sake and everyone else's, regardless of who is involved in improving that issue I hope there are improvements made in the ability for CA to limit the damage of wild fires regardless of cause.

It isn't lack of rakes.

 

[luebri]

It isn't lack of rakes.

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