Connecting IPod Classic to Truck?

[B177y]

My Lariat has super fast charging, I just have to plug in my block to the dash mounted 110v receptacle.

That's cheating.

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[chl]

UPDATE: I found a FM channel with no interference and the Monster Cable 800 worked fine.

There are several on eBay for sale, in case you want to try it, I got this one new in package (which was a b-word to open btw) for under $10 with sales tax, free shipping.

NOTE: because it was so old, the rubber around the outside and on the tuning wheel was sticky - some types of rubber do that - so I put some tissue on it to keep the stickiness off my hands.

 

[bc1]

Interesting. I dug out my old Sansa 250 or whatever it was but it looks like your monster with that style plug that went down to usb-a. The unit itself has a dial and I had over a dozen albums/cds stored on it and it would play back any album or song in an album. Not sure if it had fm but I think it does. Anyway I plugged it in to the port under the sync panel and it brings it up under media as Sansa 250 where Android Auto is.

It plays all the songs. The bad thing is that the albums don't come up on the sync panel. Just a list of songs and not all of them are on there. The other bad thing is that I bot that for my wife and it is about all Elton John albums which is fine for her but I don't need a steady dose of it.

So I'll try one of my jump drives but I'm not sure I can load too much on it and be able to switch or scroll around to different cds from the sync panel. Guess I'll start with the Moody Blues and Styx and maybe another one to see how it works. It just seems like if I put 25 cds on one big jump drive it would be hard to get around.

 

[B177y]

Interesting. I dug out my old Sansa 250 or whatever it was but it looks like your monster with that style plug that went down to usb-a. The unit itself has a dial and I had over a dozen albums/cds stored on it and it would play back any album or song in an album. Not sure if it had fm but I think it does. Anyway I plugged it in to the port under the sync panel and it brings it up under media as Sansa 250 where Android Auto is.

It plays all the songs. The bad thing is that the albums don't come up on the sync panel. Just a list of songs and not all of them are on there. The other bad thing is that I bot that for my wife and it is about all Elton John albums which is fine for her but I don't need a steady dose of it.

So I'll try one of my jump drives but I'm not sure I can load too much on it and be able to switch or scroll around to different cds from the sync panel. Guess I'll start with the Moody Blues and Styx and maybe another one to see how it works. It just seems like if I put 25 cds on one big jump drive it would be hard to get around.

As long as the correct data is attached to the music files, you can use the Ford voice control to ask "Play Styx" or "Play Come Sail Away", etc ... The Sync screen should also have the ability to list by Artist, Album, or Song Name, as long as that data was included with the music files.

Some really early CD ripping software may not have included the data or it gets corrupted throughout the years or the formatting is different, that's when you have problems.

 

[chl]

Interesting. I dug out my old Sansa 250 or whatever it was but it looks like your monster with that style plug that went down to usb-a. The unit itself has a dial and I had over a dozen albums/cds stored on it and it would play back any album or song in an album. Not sure if it had fm but I think it does. Anyway I plugged it in to the port under the sync panel and it brings it up under media as Sansa 250 where Android Auto is.

It plays all the songs. The bad thing is that the albums don't come up on the sync panel. Just a list of songs and not all of them are on there. The other bad thing is that I bot that for my wife and it is about all Elton John albums which is fine for her but I don't need a steady dose of it.

So I'll try one of my jump drives but I'm not sure I can load too much on it and be able to switch or scroll around to different cds from the sync panel. Guess I'll start with the Moody Blues and Styx and maybe another one to see how it works. It just seems like if I put 25 cds on one big jump drive it would be hard to get around.

With the SSD I use, the SYNC4 on my 2023 Pro shows Albums, Artists, and Song Titles, it will shuffle or play alphabetically, etc.

I had ripped all my CDs into my PC as windows media files to put on my Zune's back in the day so that is their file type, Windows Media Audio file.

With the MosterCable800, since it sends them by FM, all you see on the screen of the truck is the station it is tuned to, but the iPod touch shows there rest of the info.

Because I have so many CD's ripped to the SSD, when I first plug it in to the USB port, it takes a 30 seconds to a minute to index them before it will play or show the contents.

BTW, my old 2012 Nissan Leaf was iPod friendly natively so just plug and play, not need for any special adapter or "carplay' type app.

 

[bc1]

Today I looked around and found a button on the screen that gave those options you mentioned. I pressed albums and all the albums showed up and I could pick one. Then I could pick any song. So nevermind. I guess it works. Have to start ripping some cds. Thanks.

 

[chl]

Today I looked around and found a button on the screen that gave those options you mentioned. I pressed albums and all the albums showed up and I could pick one. Then I could pick any song. So nevermind. I guess it works. Have to start ripping some cds. Thanks.

Congrats!

I agree. There are a few of Elton John's tunes that I enjoy, but like Neil Diamond or Joan Baez, I can only take so much before I want to pull my hair out, no offense to any fans out there of them.

I have an eclectic collection of rock, blues, traditional and fusion jazz, and folk, some country rock and rock-a-billy, psychedelic rock, new wave 80's and 90's grunge, rave electronic music, Reggae, Latin beat, calypso, etc...if it's got a beat and I can play dashboard drums to it, it's all right with me...I played drums in a variety of bands back in the day before settling down covering most those genres.

I had a bunch of teenagers in the 90's and I ripped a lot of the good stuff from that era - but I could not really get into some of the rap they liked.

 

[bc1]

Congrats!

I agree. There are a few of Elton John's tunes that I enjoy, but like Neil Diamond or Joan Baez, I can only take so much before I want to pull my hair out, no offense to any fans out there of them.

I have an eclectic collection of rock, blues, traditional and fusion jazz, and folk, some country rock and rock-a-billy, psychedelic rock, new wave 80's and 90's grunge, rave electronic music, Reggae, Latin beat, calypso, etc...if it's got a beat and I can play dashboard drums to it, it's all right with me...I played drums in a variety of bands back in the day before settling down covering most those genres.

I had a bunch of teenagers in the 90's and I ripped a lot of the good stuff from that era - but I could not really get into some of the rap they liked.

It used to be easy to rip then they started putting in secret codes in the cds that wouldn't let you do it so I quit. I'm an attorney and I ran into one of my fellow attorneys at a concert with both of us sitting on the front row and he told me he has ripped about every rock album made and offered us any copies we wanted. He lives 30 miles away and haven't made it over or haven't felt the real need until now maybe for a few albums. He has a very elaborate sound system which is probably way more sophisticated than my typical radio speaker listening needs. I listen to the radio on Alexa at home.

As an aside, I travel to DC each year for a week to 10 day trip around the end of February and the first week of March. Staying at the Hilton Garden Inn at Noma and travel the metro all over the place looking for something decent to eat. Watch KU and the Chiefs at the Blackfinn except the Chiefs won't be playing this year. I represent the Santa Fe Trail Association and along with all the other national historic and scenic trails we meet there with the usual government agencies and people, etc. that I probably can't talk about here but I end up walking miles and miles and miles around various offices before we are done.

 

[chl]

It used to be easy to rip then they started putting in secret codes in the cds that wouldn't let you do it so I quit. I'm an attorney and I ran into one of my fellow attorneys at a concert with both of us sitting on the front row and he told me he has ripped about every rock album made and offered us any copies we wanted. He lives 30 miles away and haven't made it over or haven't felt the real need until now maybe for a few albums. He has a very elaborate sound system which is probably way more sophisticated than my typical radio speaker listening needs. I listen to the radio on Alexa at home.

As an aside, I travel to DC each year for a week to 10 day trip around the end of February and the first week of March. Staying at the Hilton Garden Inn at Noma and travel the metro all over the place looking for something decent to eat. Watch KU and the Chiefs at the Blackfinn except the Chiefs won't be playing this year. I represent the Santa Fe Trail Association and along with all the other national historic and scenic trails we meet there with the usual government agencies and people, etc. that I probably can't talk about here but I end up walking miles and miles and miles around various offices before we are done.

Yes I am an atty also. I work in the field of intellectual property, mostly patents in the electrical and computer area.

So as you may already know, it is legal to make your own copies, including transferring to your MP3 player for example, but only if it is for your own personal use. Giving copies to others is a violations. So your friend was offering to violate copyright law by giving you copies. Receiving them would also be a violation, as tempting as it may be.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse of course.

Back in the early days of CDs and VCRs to prevent piracy, those types of things you mention were done. Programs like napster were a big threat to the copyright holders as people were sharing music on line. It basically changed the industry over time.

The big case as I recall was the SONY Betamax case in 1984, where the SCOTUS ruled making copies for your own personal use, archival purposes/backups included, was not a violation of the copyright law, it's a fair use.

" a) The protection given to copyrights is wholly statutory, and, in a case like this, in which Congress has not plainly marked the course to be followed by the judiciary, this Court must be circumspect in construing the scope of rights created by a statute that never contemplated such a calculus of interests. Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for a "fair use"; the copyright owner does not possess the exclusive right to such a use. Pp. 464 U. S. 428-434. "

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/464/417/

Interestingly and ironically, there is another Sony case going on in a battle with COX about COX's potential liability as an ISP for users who use their service to infringe copyrights owned by Sony. Oral arguments were made in Dec 2025. So we will see how that shakes out. It could have a huge impact on streaming, AI, etc. basically shutting it all down.

It is a civil and criminal law, so big fines are possible for each copy made, and groups like the RIAA rigorously enforce them, even against small violators.

See: https://www.riaa.com/resources-learning/about-piracy/

Anyway, the last thing any atty would want is to have a civil and/or criminal case, and a subsequent bar investigation for copyright infringement, which is why I always say "thanks, but no thanks" when some friend or relative offers to let me copy or have a copy they made of something covered by copyright law.

I can easily buy almost anything and make my own copy for a lot less that it would cost me for a copyright violation, lol...but not funny really.

Anyway a word to the wise...

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[bc1]

I'm not even sure what program to rip from anymore. I have the microsoft windows player but I'd bet they don't let you do anything special. Any particular one to use as both a player and a cd ripper as well as one to organize music?

 

[chl]

I'm not even sure what program to rip from anymore. I have the microsoft windows player but I'd bet they don't let you do anything special. Any particular one to use as both a player and a cd ripper as well as one to organize music?

Windows Media Player works fine for me.
You can select lossless if you have the disk space.
Somewhere in the menu it is an option.
Sometimes it will look online for the details like artist title etc. but you can manually enter that.
Sometimes there are hicups and it doesn;t divide the tracks up correctly like when songs go silent before they are actually over, it'll think it's a new tune.

Haven't ripped anything in a while myself, so the details are fuzzzy - but there are online instructions you can refer to.

Good luck!

PS I haven't tried ripping anything on WIN 11 yet so might want to look for info on that if needed:

 

[chriserx]

VLC, open source multitool, not the easiest to use but not terribly difficult either, plenty of tutorials online. Don't know if it'll do metadata, been a long time since I ripped a CD, or DVD for that matter. Back when apps weren't a thing on portable devices I used Audials One to convert nearly everything to compatible formats but it's paid software.

I'm not even sure what program to rip from anymore. I have the microsoft windows player but I'd bet they don't let you do anything special. Any particular one to use as both a player and a cd ripper as well as one to organize music?

 

[chl]

I think I used iTunes to load files to the iPod...it took several hours though.

There are some other free transfer programs that might do it faster.

With the Sansa I think you can just copy and paste using Windows through the USB port after you have ripped them to the PC.

 

[bmwhitetx]

I'm not even sure what program to rip from anymore. I have the microsoft windows player but I'd bet they don't let you do anything special. Any particular one to use as both a player and a cd ripper as well as one to organize music?

I have used Exact Audio Copy with good success. iTunes also does a decent job but may have to change settings from aac to mp3.

 

[bc1]

Thanks. I'll check them out. VLC used to work for a lot of stuff coming off the web of various formats. Unless a cd is a band's greatest hits album, I won't be ripping the whole thing. Most cds only have one to three songs worth listening to. I can think of one or two Metallica songs I like but I'd go nuts listening to half a cd of them repeating the same ol, same ol. Then I can group them together in the same style. Wouldn't want Stevie Nicks mixed in between ZZ top.

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