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[Zprime29]

Nothing subjective about it. Numbers will vary.

If it's not subjective, then please explain to me how you compute "most possible". If you want me to cross the finish line, then I need to know where it is. What metric would you like to see? I've got an OBDII reader and can capture/record values to plot and share.

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[Zprime29]

Im more curious over sport mode and normal mode. What gets better milage.
Yes I'm 1 pd as I'm use to it with a bmwi3 I've used for 6 years.

Rick

It depends more on the driver than the drive mode. The only exception to that, in my opinion, is when it is very hot outside. Sport mode will engage the cooling for the battery if it gets hot, which will use some amount of extra energy. Hard to say how much that will impact efficiency, but I did notice lower efficiency when I ran Sport in the middle of summer with 100-110F temps.

 

[RLXXI]

If it's not subjective, then please explain to me how you compute "most possible". If you want me to cross the finish line, then I need to know where it is. What metric would you like to see? I've got an OBDII reader and can capture/record values to plot and share.

You're not turning this around on me. You claim it's not true, so prove your claim.

 

[watts/up]

You're not turning this around on me. You claim it's not true, so prove your claim.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...he-measured-data-proves-it.26453/#post-607809

Of course this is a Mach-E but I don't see why it would be different for Lightnings.

 

[RLXXI]

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...he-measured-data-proves-it.26453/#post-607809

Of course this is a Mach-E but I don't see why it would be different for Lightnings.

I'm not arguing this with anyone. Fyi the guy testing it on his mme talks about different modes of 1pd, we don't have different modes like that.

 

[Zprime29]

You're not turning this around on me. You claim it's not true, so prove your claim.

lol, not turning it around...but I don't want to waste my time if you are just going to complain about what I post being inaccurate, or not the right data, or whatever excuse is convenient. Give me test parameters that prove it to you and I will gather the data.

Here's something else to consider, I don't use 1 PD and have very little experience with it. If I collect data using 1 PD it is likely not going to be optimal. That could skew the comparison for whatever test is conducted. Are you willing to accept that? What is an acceptable solution to satisfy your need for proof?

 

[Zprime29]

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...he-measured-data-proves-it.26453/#post-607809

Of course this is a Mach-E but I don't see why it would be different for Lightnings.

Thanks for pointing that out, I don't visit other forums. This one is enough of a time sink

 

[RLXXI]

lol, not turning it around...but I don't want to waste my time if you are just going to complain about what I post being inaccurate, or not the right data, or whatever excuse is convenient. Give me test parameters that prove it to you and I will gather the data.

Here's something else to consider, I don't use 1 PD and have very little experience with it. If I collect data using 1 PD it is likely not going to be optimal. That could skew the comparison for whatever test is conducted. Are you willing to accept that? What is an acceptable solution to satisfy your need for proof?

Again,
"You claim a statement is false, the burden of proof falls in your lap."

2025 Flash ER, 2013 XLT

 

[Zprime29]

Again,
"You claim a statement is false, the burden of proof falls in your lap."

2025 Flash ER, 2013 XLT

That's what I figured you would say. Since you are refusing to provide the definition required for proof, I will.

Max Regen Possible is defined as the peak regen achieved during braking. Any mode of operation that can achieve this peak has an equal chance of generating a given amount of energy.

Do you disagree with this? Does anyone disagree with this?

 

[RLXXI]

That's what I figured you would say. Since you are refusing to provide the definition required for proof, I will.

Max Regen Possible is defined as the peak regen achieved during braking. Any mode of operation that can achieve this peak has an equal chance of generating a given amount of energy.

Do you disagree with this? Does anyone disagree with this?

Already told you I'm not going to argue with you on this, bring me proof what I stated is false or drop it.

 

[Zprime29]

Already told you I'm not going to argue with you on this, bring me proof what I stated is false or drop it.

I'm not arguing, I'm soliciting feedback on an objective approach to provide you proof. Why is that difficult?

 

[chl]

Things to know since you don’t have a lot of miles yet.

1) don’t run in calm screen and you’ll see a power meter on the left side of the cluster.

2) Blue on the cluster in the power area is energy out of the pack, and you’ll see it modulate with pedal position

3) green in the power area means energy into the pack, and you’ll see this change with speed and pedal position.

4) Letting off the pedal at more than 15 or so will show a Small green bar showing that you’re slightly regen braking.

5) Light to moderate brake pedal pressure at speed with grow the green bar up to a point, showing increased regen.

6) maximum regen bar size Will decrease with speed reduction.

7) turning on brake coach can show you how well you’re regenerative braking

8) you’ll always get physical brakes when coming to a stop when under 5mph approximately, you should feel them gently kick in

Good info for new to EV-ers...

I prefer the calm screen - after almost 14 years with a 2012 Nissan, I know what I do and don't need to know while driving an EV - MPH, mi/kW and SOC will do just fine.

 

[chl]

I don't care for it either but that's how you get maximum regenerative braking.

The video below agrees that one-pedal driving is the way to get the most regenerative energy.

"In this video we are discussing how you can use sport mode to increase the range that you can go on one charge, and that sport mode not one pedal driving is actually the best way to drive far on a single charge."



AI has a different take, combining Sport Mode with One Pedal Driving which the guy in the video did not try.

AI suggests:

"Enable Sport Mode: In the Lightning's drive modes, select Sport Mode. This adjusts the vehicle's settings to provide more aggressive regenerative braking when you lift off the accelerator."

"Within Sport Mode, enable the One-Pedal Drive feature. This allows you to control acceleration and deceleration using only the accelerator pedal."

"To maximize regeneration, smoothly lift your foot off the accelerator. The vehicle will slow down more quickly, converting that energy into battery power."

"Even if you're not in 1PD mode, light application of the brake pedal will activate the regenerative braking system."

"Watch the regen bar on your display. If it stays in the green zone, you are successfully regenerating energy. When the bar goes beyond the green, your vehicle is using friction brakes to slow down, which is less efficient for energy recovery."

But I think the topic is reducing brake dust with regen, so any regen method is going to be good for that whether it is recovering the most energy from wheel motion of not, yes?

 

[PreservedSwine]

If reducing brake dust is the goal, just use ceramic brakes on everything.

 

[RLXXI]

If reducing brake dust is the goal, just use ceramic brakes on everything.

Then you'll be replacing rotors and pads all the time.

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