Important Update: Ford EV Roadmap & Future of F-150 Lightning (EREV Next Gen Model) - ⛔️ ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS

[SpaceEVDriver]

I would love to own a mid-sized BEV pickup. It won't be a Ford. We can't trust Ford to stand by their innovative products.

We are now that much more likely to buy a used Rivian to replace our Mustang when the time comes. Or a Scout BEV, if they don't also succumb to the idiocy infecting US automobile manufacturers.

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[Lightning Bronson]

I’m happy to keep my ‘24 Flash for as long as possible. What I’m worried about is parts and batteries being available for those of us who get the extended warranty and stay for the long haul.

What long haul? The Lightning can't even get close to traveling 700 miles without a trailer being towed.


—Ford, probably.

I'm not upset with the update. I'm just disappointed.

 

[chl]

Looks like a pretty negative response from us Lightning owners, Ford.
Are you listening to us?
Yet?

 

[zakress]

Well, you didn’t stoop to Trump for…[checks notes]…11 months. Lasted way longer than Target and others, so that’s something.

Now to watch Marques Brownlee for what my next leading EV is gonna look like, since ford has lost the plot and is committing to delivering faster horses.

 

[Pod]

What a disappointment. Kowtowing to the anti-EV fo$$il fuel industry. Never going back to a gas vehicle. Can't wait to buy a Chinese EV truck.

All Chinese EVs will be readily available. Ford has sounded the death knell for legacy automakers. Just sad.

 

[SmoothJ]

I started my EV journey back in 2016 and as a family we haven’t used gas since 2019 (except for rentals). The F150L has been great and an awesome vehicle. Yes it has it quarks and some issues, but for us it was fine. This announcement is a step backwards IMHO. We are worried about Chinese EVs but that’s the tip of the iceberg as more and more places around the world utilize some BEV technology. This news is setting the US for failure and behind the times.

Regarding the warranty, sure 10 years is awesome but warranty or parts are usually best effort. If the part is on back order for months/years, how does that help us? Does this mean software updates too, or like SYNC 3, it will never get updates again.

Even NJ is anti-EV now… clawing back EV sales taxes and now road fees. It honestly feels that as early adopters, we are getting more and more pushed into driving a regular ICE.

Also, as others have mentioned, this will severely hurt the retail values of these trucks. I still owe quite a bit on my F150L to a point that I can’t even trade it in because of the negative equity. This will add insult to injury and hurt Fords brand.

 

[ElectrifyingMe25]

Hi F-150 Lightning owners,

I’m coming to you today with an update on our product roadmap. There has been a lot of speculation recently and we just went live with some news. So, I want to give you the facts straight from Ford, explain what is changing, and more importantly, why.

With the F-150 Lightning, we proved an electric truck could be a hit, and it has remained the best-selling electric pickup. Let’s be real about what we’ve learned from you, the owners, and the market over the last few years. You love the electric performance, smoothness, and the tech, but for those that drive long distances, take frequent trips or tow heavy loads across state lines often, an F-150 Lightning might not be the truck for them. And we want it to be.

We took a bet, produced an amazing product that so many people love, and now we’re making adjustments in response to evolving market realities, consumer preferences, and the regulatory environment. No one could have predicted how the EV landscape would change in the U.S., which has impacted the industry.
That is why our next-generation F-150 Lightning will be an EREV. 100% electric power delivery, sub-5-second acceleration – and adds an estimated 700+ mile range with locomotive-like towing capability. That is a game-changer for our customers. Like the current F-150 Lightning, the next-gen version will also offer exportable electricity that can power everything from work sites to camp sites to homes during a power outage.

For those who aren’t familiar with EREVs, this isn't a traditional plug-in hybrid. This is an electric vehicle with an on-board generator. It’s designed to give you the electric capability you enjoy around town, but with the range and towing confidence of a gas truck when you’re hauling a boat or camper. It will be assembled right here in Dearborn at the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center.

What this means for the current generation F-150 Lightning and “T3” truck​

Production of the current generation of F-150 Lightning will end this year, and we have also made the decision to no longer produce the next-generation full-size electric truck, also known as “T3”. For those that still wish to purchase a MY25 F-150 Lightning, we have good inventory and interested customers can purchase from dealer stock.

If you have an order in, or were waiting on one, please contact your dealer immediately to see if your vehicle will be built or if they can match you to an existing stock unit.

As for existing Lightning customers who might be coming off lease or looking or a new Lightning, we are looking at the following:

• Assist early adopters to purchase or lease a new 25MY Lightning
• Offering extensions to customers who wish to extend their leases beyond the original term
• Providing dealer support to help match customer with available inventory

What about support for my current F-150 Lightning?​

I know reading "production is ending" can be nerve-wracking for current owners. I want to be clear: We are committed to ensuring ongoing support of your vehicle’s software updates, quality and experience. Like all vehicles, we will maintain parts and service for 10 years. The team is not walking away from the current F-150 Lightning, and I’m not going anywhere.

The Ford Universal EV Platform​

While we shift F-150 Lightning to EREV, we are absolutely maintaining our plans and investment in the next generation of affordable EVs. The new Universal EV (UEV) platform is now more important than ever for Ford. UEV platform development is well underway. This flexible architecture will underpin a new family of smaller, more affordable, and cost-efficient vehicles—starting with a midsize pickup in 2027.

There is no impact to Mustang Mach-E. Mustang Mach-E is a great success story and is now available in almost 60 markets across the globe. It continues to be a standout electric SUV and plays an important role in the portfolio.

Other News: Battery Technology​

We are also making moves to make our business more sustainable. We are repurposing our Kentucky battery plant to build large-scale battery storage systems (for grid and industrial use), and our Michigan plant will be focusing on prismatic LFP cells. The same Michigan plant will be ramping up production in 2026 to power the new midsize electric truck built on our new Universal EV Platform.

Ford has been in manufacturing for over a century. We understand power management, thermal systems, safety engineering, and large-scale manufacturing. Our licensed LFP prismatic technology is proven, and our brand represents long-term accountability critical for 20+ year infrastructure investments.

I know this is a lot of news, and for the BEV purists, this might be tough to hear. We have a huge opportunity to get more people driving electric – whether that be plug-in hybrid, extended-range electric or pure electric vehicles and our plans set us up to succeed in this mission.

You can read the press release on this news here. I’ll be in the comments a later tonight to answer what I can.

Brian from Ford

And why not be very smart and make EREV an upgrage option.

The all electric could just be an EREV without an Engine installed. And likewise, if in the future I wanted to make my Pure Electric an EREV, for the right price, Ford could install the EREV kit.

 

[Scorpio3d]

I don’t want a Frankentruck or FrankenBev or whatever we should be calling an EREV!!!
Worst of both worlds!

 

[gregoryhcain]

It is 100% the United States. They are taking off in the rest of the world, and we've now ceded that market (amongst many others) to China due to our own short sightedness and love of oil.

Stupid is as stupid does.

EV sales are up everywhere in the world — except North America

China will eat Ford’s lunch, and deservedly so…

 

[clayjk]

Does anyone have any idea what % of parts are unique to just the lightning versus say an ICE F150 or a MachE?
Just trying to think of major (critical or crazy expensive) that could be replacement problem over 10 years out to keep the rig running. Has been my plan to keep it much longer than that.

I’ll add, it was clear this day would come between the T3 announcement as well as the US political climate and financial statements about EV costs Ford has been making. So, little surprise or caught off guard by this but back to my question above, just hoping to hear longer term support of the platform isn’t a lost cause.

 

[morrisosu]

To sum up the majority of thoughts on this move: this sucks.

 

[morrisosu]

Does anyone have any idea what % of parts are unique to just the lightning versus say an ICE F150 or a MachE?
Just trying to think of major (critical or crazy expensive) that could be replacement problem over 10 years out to keep the rig running. Has been my plan to keep it much longer than that.

I’ll add, it was clear this day would come between the T3 announcement as well as the US political climate and financial statements about EV costs Ford has been making. So, little surprise or caught off guard by this but back to my question above, just hoping to hear longer term support of the platform isn’t a lost cause.

Same curiosity here.

 

[Pitbull2o08]

Expect "CRICKETS"

Always… literally for 3 years. Always.

 

[I <3 My Lightning]

... Blah blah blah... Reminds me of the '06 Honda Ridgeline I had. Over engineered, just needed a little more power. Honda caved and went to a more traditional body and smaller. Yet I see plenty of those 1st gen running around.

The lightning is no different. Also over engineered and a great science, fiscal and environmental experiment for them... The last part being the biggest motivation.

Yet here we are in a system where the NHTSA will not let them off the hook for any safety issues that may require software updates and/or hardware replacement.

for them to choke on remaining stock. I wonder if I can pick up a brand new flash for 40k?

Hey Big Bri not AI, I guess you never put your deposit down for your lightning order... ...

Don't worry folks, the machE isn't going anywhere which means compatible modules to rebuild the batteries will be available.

 

[Oafy44]

Does anyone have any idea what % of parts are unique to just the lightning versus say an ICE F150 or a MachE?
Just trying to think of major (critical or crazy expensive) that could be replacement problem over 10 years out to keep the rig running. Has been my plan to keep it much longer than that.

I’ll add, it was clear this day would come between the T3 announcement as well as the US political climate and financial statements about EV costs Ford has been making. So, little surprise or caught off guard by this but back to my question above, just hoping to hear longer term support of the platform isn’t a lost cause.

Same here

It seems to me they just got so ahead of themselves in the beginning when they had “huge demand” they went out and built a huge factory for what turned out to be 30k trucks a year. - but I wonder if they would actually be profitable if a shift ran a line once a every few months- I know there’s some re tooling involved but seems if the engineers made the lighting exactly like the ice in terms of interior finishes /and only needed the suspension / batter chassis - which ford used to tout as significant part savings - it would be profitable ?

Another thing is ford makes their money on vehicles - Tesla on their software/charging. Ford is bad at software (not really but compared to Tesla they are ) and charging (not horrible but to Tesla they are as well ). - so Tesla doesn’t care about profit per se on the actual unit where ford has to make a profit because they can’t on subscribers or charging.

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