July/Aug Issue Of Car & Driver dedicated 100% to electric vehicles

[fmdog44]

The issue is dedicated 100% to electric vehicles so if you are thinking of going electric you should get a copy before you decide.

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[Sundancer330]

I am not sold on these EV yet. GM only sells the Bolt EV at this time and it has the second recall on the same problem. So for now they say dont park in the garage and dont charge over night or a fire may start. So when and for how long can you charge it safely, I want a vehicle that is ready to go when I am, not waiting for it to recharge.

 

[astricklin]

I'm sure there's never been a fire in an unattended ice vehicle....?

 

[Trucky McTruckface]

I'm sure there's never been a fire in an unattended ice vehicle....?

Ya, you're right. Would be really hard for an unattended ICE vehicle to randomly go up in flames without an electric current or spark... Its not a spontaneously combustion engine..... Unless you have an example? The post above you did...

 

[FIFO]

Ya, you're right. Would be really hard for an unattended ICE vehicle to randomly go up in flames without an electric current or spark... Its not a spontaneously combustion engine..... Unless you have an example? The post above you did...

Dude, seriously? This is off the top of my head...next time do your own research before you make stuff up.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/engine-fires-linked-to-46m-recalled-fords/

 

[Merccat]

Dude, seriously? This is off the top of my head...next time do your own research before you make stuff up.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/engine-fires-linked-to-46m-recalled-fords/

from the article:
"In the cases where there was that allegation, we found that the source of the fire was unrelated to the vehicle," said Ford spokeswoman Kristen Kinley.

 

[Sundancer330]

I'm sure there's never been a fire in an unattended ice vehicle....?

Well read this. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/15/business/chevrolet-bolts-ev-fire-recall.html

 

[Merccat]

I believe sundancer was referring to the current (2021) issue with the bolt catching on fire while charging and GM issuing a notice to charge outside only:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/15/business/chevrolet-bolts-ev-fire-recall.html

Vs a recall on 20 year old fords.

If were being honest and not emotional/defensive it can happen to any car and sometimes has nothing at all to do with the power source. This one cut through nearly the whole line: Nissan brake seals leaking and catching on fire (my guess is brake fluid on a hot rotor)

https://www.npr.org/2019/11/15/7797...y-400-000-vehicles-over-potential-fire-hazard.

however, it definitely seems easier to find cases of EV’s catching fire in garages in more recent years which is concerning considering how much fewer of them are on the road.

Edit: beat me to it.

 

[FIFO]

from the article:
"In the cases where there was that allegation, we found that the source of the fire was unrelated to the vehicle," said Ford spokeswoman Kristen Kinley.

Ford spokesman said it wasn’t related...lol....they recalled 4.6 million vehicles. Also, you took that out of context. Ford claimed it was unrelated in injuries and death. I wonder why they wanted to separate themselves from that.

 

[Merccat]

Ford spokesman said it wasn’t related...lol....they recalled 4.6 million vehicles. Also, you took that out of context. Ford claimed it was unrelated in injuries and death. I wonder why they wanted to separate themselves from that.

true you have to take the company line with a grain of salt but you also have to listen to both sides of the story. Also I did not take it out of context, that quote immediately followed the paragraph which stated there were reports of fires starting the customer garages causing injuries or death. Its pretty simple, the response paragraph immediately following the claim is the response to the claim.

 

[Trucky McTruckface]

Ford spokesman said it wasn’t related...lol....they recalled 4.6 million vehicles. Also, you took that out of context. Ford claimed it was unrelated in injuries and death. I wonder why they wanted to separate themselves from that.

Common logic about ways a fire could start would tell you that gas and oil sitting there by themselves doing nothing will not catch fire. Something has to happen.. With electricity flowing, that is why those fires start. See, a reason. Dude, seriously? Thats just off the top of my head. But you could try the experiment for yourself. Let me know how many hours it takes for you ICE vehicle to catch fire just sitting in your garage... I'd start now cause i dont know how old you are but I think you have a LONG wait... Common sense my friend. Common logic.. Also, i dont think my car uses cruise control while sitting in the garage... 0 is an easy speed to maintain..

 

[corradoborg]

Lithium batteries can catch fire. It’s known to happen. So charge outside or set up an automatic fire suppression system in your garage. It’s not a reason not to buy an EV vehicle.

ICE vehicles don’t generally catch on fire while sitting unused in a garage, but so what? (they actually do frequently catch fire, but it usually happens while they’re in use, which can be just as dangerous) The time of ICE vehicles is nearing the end. Time to adjust to life with EVs and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. Every new technology has an adjustment period while people learn how to best use them.

 

[Northern Goat]

I am not sold on these EV yet. GM only sells the Bolt EV at this time and it has the second recall on the same problem. So for now they say dont park in the garage and dont charge over night or a fire may start. So when and for how long can you charge it safely, I want a vehicle that is ready to go when I am, not waiting for it to recharge.

Rare exception. ICE vehicles catch on fire too. I have had an Audi ETron for two years and friends have Tesla’s. no issues what so ever

 

[greenne]

Lithium batteries can catch fire. It’s known to happen. So charge outside or set up an automatic fire suppression system in your garage. It’s not a reason not to buy an EV vehicle.

ICE vehicles don’t generally catch on fire while sitting unused in a garage, but so what? (they actually do frequently catch fire, but it usually happens while they’re in use, which can be just as dangerous) The time of ICE vehicles is nearing the end. Time to adjust to life with EVs and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. Every new technology has an adjustment period while people learn how to best use them.

Apparently you don't remember the Ford Cruise control switch a few years back...

Ford Cruise Control Deactivation Switch Recalls and History - The Center for Auto Safety

 

[MickeyAO]

I don't have the link to the source on hand now, but when I was researching a statement for an interview, I found there were 100+ (I think the reputable source said 150+) ICE fires a day, but no one cares. If there is one EV fire ANYWHERE in the world, it makes front-page news all over the world. Why? EV is new and unknown, whereas ICE is a known commodity that we know how to deal with.

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