Open Country or Defenders !?

[Dezarah]

So I am trying to take advantage of this Ford deal has for buy three tires get one for a dollar including installation.

my dealer had me quoted for the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 for $1084 out the door and the Toyo Open Country AtIII EV for $1386 out the door.

I drive 99% of my time on the pave highways in Florida really the only weather I ever have to deal with this rain. I drive about 55-60 miles a day going about 70-75 mph. I know the defenders would more than likely be better for me, but I hate how bland all seasons look. Those Toyos look so damn good lol. Does anyone have any range calculations after putting on those Toyos? I see a lot of people who put them on, but they never provide range loss numbers etc afterwards. I hear they are quiet for an all-terrain tire, but hardly say anything about range loss.

so stuck between one or the other. Any advice or input ? lol thanks

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[jobofly79]

I just ordered these for my lightning, Toyo Open Country AtIII EV. I have been a huge fan of the AT 3's since I had them on my Gladiator. They perform really well in any weather and are great off road.

 

[Dezarah]

I just ordered these for my lightning, Toyo Open Country AtIII EV. I have been a huge fan of the AT 3's since I had them on my Gladiator. They perform really well in any weather and are great off road.

It’s a beautiful tire and I know people who are putting them on their lightnings are enjoying them, but I hardly read anything about range loss with them. Or at least anything noteworthy other than people just saying. “Range is good”. Lol​

 

[jobofly79]

It’s a beautiful tire and I know people who are putting them on their lightnings are enjoying them, but I hardly read anything about range loss with them. Or at least anything noteworthy other than people just saying. “Range is good”. Lol​

Yea I did a bunch of research on the the EV version, most of which came from the Rivian people and they claim little to no range loss.

 

[WXman]

The only version of the 275/60R20 Toyo "EV" all-terrain tire that I can find online is the LT-E rated version. This is going to be a heavier tire, and there is no possible way it's going to return the same mi/kWh as the stock, flimsy, lightweight highway terrain original equipment tires.

Apparently Toyo is going to release the P rated, 116T load index version this upcoming winter however, so that will be a good choice if range is more important to you than traction and ruggedness.

 

[Dezarah]

I LOVE the all terrain rugged look. But I never go on any dirt roads etc. it’s all highway or city driving. In Florida we don’t get snow or anything. Just bad rain. As much as I love the look of the Toyos I may end up just going with the Defenders

 

[Yansolo31]

I'm about 150 miles into a set of toyo at3 ev tires 275/60/20 xls.

Over the last 6k miles I've been averaging 2.5 kWh/mi. Over the last 150 miles I've been getting 2.4. So far I've been very happy with them.

 

[Dezarah]

What kind of driving are you doing? Highway or city? Because that’s a really good rate

 

[Yansolo31]

What kind of driving are you doing? Highway or city? Because that’s a really good rate

A little bit of everything. To clarity, last 6k was OEM hancooks, last 150 on at3 ev.

But last 150 it's been county hwys at 55-60 mph and interstate at 75. Plus normal city traffic.

Ive been running them at 45 psi

 

[Andrewbens]

My Toyos have been averaging 2.1 in the 5,000 miles I have driven on them. I’m honestly really impressed and they are quiet. I have them at 46psi.

 

[jetfixr1]

Im in the same situation myself. I want new tires before winter, which means my Hankooks will be getting swapped out with 45K on them. Honestly, not bad for an OEM tire. Ive only used the Michelins before, theyre really a great tire and like you, mostly highway/city and I need a really good wet season tire with all the rain we get in GA/FL.

Since it seems efficiency is the same, itll come down to cost. Pay more for a tire that will wear out sooner (Toyos), or pay less for a tire that will outlast the other by atleast 20-30K miles (Michelins).

Assuming 50K mile life for the Toyos, your paying $0.027/ mile compared to the Michelins with a realistic life span of 70k at $0.015/mile.

 

[Dezarah]

So with the deal at ford right now. The defenders out the door are $1046(and a $60 rebate through Michelin). The Toyos are $1376 out the door. These prices include mounting and balancing.

 

[Wattsgas]

How is the noise on the Toyos compared to the stock tires.

 

[Zprime29]

I put on the Bridgestone Dueler Ascent A/T on mine. I get that slightly aggressive look and after 13k miles I've seen no change to efficiency for my commute. I drive 70% city / 30% highway. I did take a road trip with them (320 miles) and got similar efficiency (weather was worse than normal so hard to tell for sure).

 

[Dezarah]

Im in the same situation myself. I want new tires before winter, which means my Hankooks will be getting swapped out with 45K on them. Honestly, not bad for an OEM tire. Ive only used the Michelins before, theyre really a great tire and like you, mostly highway/city and I need a really good wet season tire with all the rain we get in GA/FL.

Since it seems efficiency is the same, itll come down to cost. Pay more for a tire that will wear out sooner (Toyos), or pay less for a tire that will outlast the other by atleast 20-30K miles (Michelins).

Assuming 50K mile life for the Toyos, your paying $0.027/ mile compared to the Michelins with a realistic life span of 70k at $0.015/mile.

I went with the defenders. Going for efficiency over vanity. For $1046 out the door (balance rotating etc) with a $60 rebate through Michelin. Can’t say no to that.

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