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That’s an interesting response. I’m genuinely curious why you feel the way you do about Mercedes. You haven’t offered anything substantive so just curious what the actual reason is.
Metris, nuff said.
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Considering I feel lucky to have acquired one, I'm keeping mine forever. If for some reason I will be forced to replace it, I'll get another Lightning - hopefully it will have the factory power running boards!
 

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Waiting to see the cost on the Slate with the long range battery. Fords software is not good. That will not be an issue with Slate. I like to tinker. (I added center light bar to Pro upgraded stereo running boards and grille)... The new 30K Ford pickup will be $35K plus $5K minimum dealer mark up. Throw a few options and mandatory dealer adds. $45 to $48K out the door. I bought my 22 Pro in mint condition used with 5K miles so I finally really did get it for under $40K back in March of last year.
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I've owned quite a few German and American vehicles over the years, and a couple Japanese ones as well. I agree that the German vehicles I owned didn't seem to be that much worse mechanically than American. You can certainly pinpoint very bad designs at each direction, but you can also pinpoint some really bulletproof engines from each as well.

Personally, I had a VW TDI that was insanely bulletproof from the late 90s/early 2000s. I also had a GTI from the mid 2010s that was also pretty solid. I then had a BMW that was also pretty damn solid from 2015.
Now...I also currently own a 1973 F100 FE Big Block 360 that I can't seem to kill ;) and prior I had an early 90s S10 4.3l that wouldn't die.

I really do wish Ford would look over the German interior and try and replicate it, because it is really nice, even the older vehicles. Overall I think the Lightning is a really awesome vehicle. It would have been nice if they would have brought in some Germans to help out with the interior......
 

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I've owned quite a few German and American vehicles over the years, and a couple Japanese ones as well. I agree that the German vehicles I owned didn't seem to be that much worse mechanically than American. You can certainly pinpoint very bad designs at each direction, but you can also pinpoint some really bulletproof engines from each as well.

Personally, I had a VW TDI that was insanely bulletproof from the late 90s/early 2000s. I also had a GTI from the mid 2010s that was also pretty solid. I then had a BMW that was also pretty damn solid from 2015.
Now...I also currently own a 1973 F100 FE Big Block 360 that I can't seem to kill ;) and prior I had an early 90s S10 4.3l that wouldn't die.

I really do wish Ford would look over the German interior and try and replicate it, because it is really nice, even the older vehicles. Overall I think the Lightning is a really awesome vehicle. It would have been nice if they would have brought in some Germans to help out with the interior......
That's about the one thing I do like about them, that leather they use, man I love that smell. Mostly the older models.
 

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Totally agree. Bare minimum it should have been located on the passenger side. They could have gone the Porsche Taycan route and have a charge port on both sides, with the DCFC port located in the right side.
Both sides would be nice but that's extra wiring and parts not all designers want to spend money on and add vehicle complexity and weight. I don't understand why the passenger side is the best place. The driver has to walk all the way around the vehicle to plug in instead of plugging in right where they get out of the vehicle.
 

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And the bulk of the money spent on it goes to Germany.
I think they've said they're domestically sourcing most of the components for the Scout.
 

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I think they've said they're domestically sourcing most of the components for the Scout.
Good for them, I'm still not buying it.
 

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Both sides would be nice but that's extra wiring and parts not all designers want to spend money on and add vehicle complexity and weight. I don't understand why the passenger side is the best place. The driver has to walk all the way around the vehicle to plug in instead of plugging in right where they get out of the vehicle.
The passenger side port locations make life easier at Tesla stations when said port is located at the front of the vehicle.

Good for them, I'm still not buying it.
Just like the BMW X3, X4, X5, and X6 are assembled in Spartanburg SC, employing hundreds of Americans.
 

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The passenger side port locations make life easier at Tesla stations when said port is located at the front of the vehicle.



Just like the BMW X3, X4, X5, and X6 are assembled in Spartanburg SC, employing hundreds of Americans.
Good for them, im still not buying it.
 

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Let's put this European car talk to rest.

I'M NOT BUYING ONE!!!

Can you hear me now?
 

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Let's put this European car talk to rest.

I'M NOT BUYING ONE!!!

Can you hear me now?
To be fair. About 15% of the Lightnings parts are from Europe. Also the battery cells are from Asia on the early years, and domestically still manufactured by an Asian company….

So you did still purchase a foreign vehicle. 😉
 

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To be fair. About 15% of the Lightnings parts are from Europe. Also the battery cells are from Asia on the early years, and domestically still manufactured by an Asian company….

So you did still purchase a foreign vehicle. 😉
Who designs Fords? Rhetorical question that marks the end of my participation on this topic.
 

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Who designs Fords? Rhetorical question that marks the end of my participation on this topic.
It is funny you say that as much of their design work is in England and Germany……. Just not on the F150.
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