Recall king = Repair cost after warranty?

[Adventureboy]

I've owned F150s for decades, and the Lightning shows the same trend as all of my others. Most of them I pushed well into 200,000mi with no serious problems and intend to do this with the Lightning. One or two initial glitches followed by years of reliable service (although there are always exceptions on both ICE and EV, I've been lucky to avoid them). That said, the Lightning is a newer platform, so powertrain longevity is being proven now. I have seen nothing to suggest it won't follow the same pattern - in fact, there are fewer parts to break in the EV drivetrain. The risk for us is in the cost of repair when something does break. I'm a DIY guy, but dropping the battery pack to replace an HVBJB is not in my comfort zone (yet).
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[husky10101]

Check the granger ford website. It looks like it covers most everything.
https://grangerfordextendedwarranty.com/uploads/pdfs/plans/PremiumCARE.pdf

I don't see where the HV battery is covered. Am I missing something?

 

[WaterboyNorCal]

I don't see where the HV battery is covered. Am I missing something?

You are correct. The HV battery is NOT covered by the PremiumCare EV extended warranty. The HV battery is covered under the standard warranty - 100k miles or 8 years, whichever comes first.

 

[MaintGrl]

I'm Not a fan of extended warranty's, When I bought my truck, the dealer was pushing extended warranty's, They had different levels of coverage, I did pay for the 8 yr Electronics Plan, since these are basically a computer on wheels.

 

[ClevelandBeemer]

This video totally makes sense given the amount of different vehicles Ford makes. This is not to excuse their quality control issues, but it’s just acknowledging the scope makes sense. Ford seriously needs to get it together. As a long time BMW owner it was very jarring how many times I’ve been to the dealer for warranty work in my first 5 months of ownership of my 2025 F150 Lightning Flash.

 

[WXman]

Some thoughts:

You should watch some videos The Car Guy has posted to YouTube along with his guest Nate from Next Gen Powertrain. Those videos are eye opening. The OEs would rather throw money at warranty repairs than build quality vehicles because over time it actually saves them money.

I've had 30+ vehicles in my lifetime, from year 1988 through 2025 and everything in between. Ram/Jeep/Dodge brands have been most reliable for me and it's not even close. Ford is #2. I've had great luck with my Fords. Toyota is...eh...ok. GM vehicles I avoid like the plague.

The Lightning came out in what, 2022? It's probably going away after 2027 in favor of the new T3 truck with a dedicated EV platform, i.e. it won't share ICE F-150 bones anymore. So the Lightning will have been a one-off vehicle sold for only 5 model years. Between that, and the fact that this truck is mostly software and electronics, it's going to be very difficult to keep these trucks on the road for 20 or 30 years. I see 1980s and 1990s trucks ALL THE TIME. In the year 2050 you will not see 2025 Lightnings.

The extended warranty on these is a waste. If you get the warranty while the truck is new, then the warranty begins at the time of first purchase/lease. And since the battery and associated components are covered for 8 years and 100k from the factory, paying thousands of dollars for a 10 year warranty is really going to only net you 2 additional years of coverage. NOT worth it.

To me, these EVs are excellent vehicles to lease. I would never "buy" one by financing it or paying cash up front. Back when vehicles were mostly mechanical they were a good buy because you could keep them on the road forever. My very first truck at 16 was a 1992 F-150. That truck could easily still be on the road today. But now that vehicles are rolling computers, they are not a good buy anymore because tech changes too fast. Just like TVs, video game systems, and everything else...these EVs will be outdated in 5 years.

 

[Maxx]

Some thoughts:

You should watch some videos The Car Guy has posted to YouTube along with his guest Nate from Next Gen Powertrain. Those videos are eye opening. The OEs would rather throw money at warranty repairs than build quality vehicles because over time it actually saves them money.

I've had 30+ vehicles in my lifetime, from year 1988 through 2025 and everything in between. Ram/Jeep/Dodge brands have been most reliable for me and it's not even close. Ford is #2. I've had great luck with my Fords. Toyota is...eh...ok. GM vehicles I avoid like the plague.

The Lightning came out in what, 2022? It's probably going away after 2027 in favor of the new T3 truck with a dedicated EV platform, i.e. it won't share ICE F-150 bones anymore. So the Lightning will have been a one-off vehicle sold for only 5 model years. Between that, and the fact that this truck is mostly software and electronics, it's going to be very difficult to keep these trucks on the road for 20 or 30 years. I see 1980s and 1990s trucks ALL THE TIME. In the year 2050 you will not see 2025 Lightnings.

The extended warranty on these is a waste. If you get the warranty while the truck is new, then the warranty begins at the time of first purchase/lease. And since the battery and associated components are covered for 8 years and 100k from the factory, paying thousands of dollars for a 10 year warranty is really going to only net you 2 additional years of coverage. NOT worth it.

To me, these EVs are excellent vehicles to lease. I would never "buy" one by financing it or paying cash up front. Back when vehicles were mostly mechanical they were a good buy because you could keep them on the road forever. My very first truck at 16 was a 1992 F-150. That truck could easily still be on the road today. But now that vehicles are rolling computers, they are not a good buy anymore because tech changes too fast. Just like TVs, video game systems, and everything else...these EVs will be outdated in 5 years.

It will be very interesting to see how that goes. Smart phones, tablets, electric shavers and other battery operated devices are disposable indeed but none of them cost near $100K. It is all matter of how many third party shops will pop up by year 8 and how much it will cost to bring a dead Lightning back to life. Once one person hacks around a proprietary obstacle and it is on internet, these things could live a long time. Electric motors are less fussy than engines when it comes to longevity and we probably would want to replace the batteries with something safer with better performance anyway. I have high hopes our Lightnings will become collectables as industry moves toward more efficiency with lower cost of production.

 

[Carieth]

Some thoughts:

You should watch some videos The Car Guy has posted to YouTube along with his guest Nate from Next Gen Powertrain. Those videos are eye opening. The OEs would rather throw money at warranty repairs than build quality vehicles because over time it actually saves them money.

I've had 30+ vehicles in my lifetime, from year 1988 through 2025 and everything in between. Ram/Jeep/Dodge brands have been most reliable for me and it's not even close. Ford is #2. I've had great luck with my Fords. Toyota is...eh...ok. GM vehicles I avoid like the plague.

The Lightning came out in what, 2022? It's probably going away after 2027 in favor of the new T3 truck with a dedicated EV platform, i.e. it won't share ICE F-150 bones anymore. So the Lightning will have been a one-off vehicle sold for only 5 model years. Between that, and the fact that this truck is mostly software and electronics, it's going to be very difficult to keep these trucks on the road for 20 or 30 years. I see 1980s and 1990s trucks ALL THE TIME. In the year 2050 you will not see 2025 Lightnings.

The extended warranty on these is a waste. If you get the warranty while the truck is new, then the warranty begins at the time of first purchase/lease. And since the battery and associated components are covered for 8 years and 100k from the factory, paying thousands of dollars for a 10 year warranty is really going to only net you 2 additional years of coverage. NOT worth it.

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To me, these EVs are excellent vehicles to lease. I would never "buy" one by financing it or paying cash up front. Back when vehicles were mostly mechanical they were a good buy because you could keep them on the road forever. My very first truck at 16 was a 1992 F-150. That truck could easily still be on the road today. But now that vehicles are rolling computers, they are not a good buy anymore because tech changes too fast. Just like TVs, video game systems, and everything else...these EVs will be outdated in 5 years.

Leasing makes sense. Modern EVs age like electronics, not old-school trucks. My 2020s models feel outdated already, so long-term ownership seems risky!

 

[No Oil HaHa]

I’m Team Ford especially when it comes to trucks.
I had a 2011 F-150 with the first generation Ecoboost that was totaled in an accident at 309k miles. The only thing I replaced were water pump and radiator at about 220k miles.
I still own a 2013 F-150 with the 3.5 ecoboost and it has 365k miles. I’m just getting ready to replace the water pump in it.
My wife has had a Mustang with no significant problems, a problem free Lincoln MKC and now has an Aviator.
The Aviator has had 5 recalls in the last two years. We’ll get rid of it after the extended warranty expires. I doubt I will get her another Ford/Lincoln at this point.

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